[Rhodes22-list] Ayers Finally Speaks

[Steven Alm]

Herb,

You asked what he is disputing.  I pointed it out.  I knew you wouldn't
agree with him.  I'll certainly contend that the SDS and the Weather
Underground were not exactly peace nick, hippy flower children.  They were
extreme radicals indeed, and as you know, I don't condone extremism.  But
(1.) Does he belong in the same category as terrorists of say 9/11?  (2.)
Does his association, whatever it was, with O mean anything at all?  Esp.
since O was eight years old at the time in question.  I mean really, do you
think Obama's a terrorist?  Are all the people who knew Ayers suspect?  Must
be in the thousands of Americans.

On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 3:36 PM, Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com> wrote:

> "Close friends" is a relative term. The thing I heard bandied about was
> about the party for Obama in 1995. I think it's pretty fair to say that
> they were, at least at that point, friendly.
>
>
> Steven Alm wrote:
> > Sorry, I meant to add the other "fact" he disputes is that he was close
> > friends with O.
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 2:55 PM, Steven Alm <stevenalm at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Herb,
> >>
> >> The "facts" that he disputes are those that claim he was and still is a
> >> terrorist:
> >>
> >> "Peaceful protests had failed to stop the war. So we issued a screaming
> >> response. But it was not terrorism; we were not engaged in a campaign to
> >> kill and injure people indiscriminately, spreading fear and suffering
> for
> >> political ends.
> >>
> >> I cannot imagine engaging in actions of that kind today. And for the
> past
> >> 40 years, I've been teaching and writing about the unique value and
> >> potential of every human life, and the need to realize that potential
> >> through education."
> >>
> >> On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 2:47 PM, Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com
> >wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Actually, I didn't see any "facts" that he disputed. What did I miss?
> >>> Oh wait, I forgot, when did the facts matter to the detractors?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Lowe, Rob wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Steve,
> >>>> Thanks for posting.  I saw something he wrote a week ago that wasn't
> >>>> quite as long.  As he said, their association was portrayed falsely,
> but
> >>>> when did the facts matter to the detractors. - rob
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> >>>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Steven Alm
> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 3:04 PM
> >>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> >>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Ayers Finally Speaks
> >>>>
> >>>> Of course the conservative bloggers are all over this like the hot
> kiss
> >>>> at
> >>>> the end of a wet fist, (Nick Danger, Third Eye) but here it is:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> http://www.startribune.com/opinion/commentary/35770229.html?elr=KArksc8P
> >>>
> >>>> :Pc:U0ckkD:aEyKUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aULPQL7PQLanchO7DiU
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