[Rhodes22-list] UAW

[Robert Skinner]

Two questions:

If they went into chapter 11, would the auto companies be able to "shake the 
unions"?

Can the auto companies function without the unions -- or have the managers 
forgotten how to make a vehicle?

/Robert O'Maine

Brad Haslett wrote:
> David,
> 
> It isn't fun watching the personal side of these events.  My oldest
> son's roommate in Little Rock works at the family Jeep dealership
> (Chrysler) that's been in the family for three generations. I doubt
> they'll make it. On the other side of the equation, people in San
> Antonio, Tupelo, Montgomery, Jackson, etc. are ready to hustle at $40
> an hour. If we didn't allow for failure we'd still be driving Hudsons
> and Packards.
> 
> Brad
> 
> On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 6:47 PM, David Bradley <dwbrad at gmail.com> wrote:
>> And too many dealerships holding too much finished inventory.  Now
>> that the shock has worn off from the meltdown I'm remembering how
>> perfectly awful the prospect of not being a leader in the steel
>> industry seemed in the 70s.  Let 'em declare chapter 11 - no loan wi
>> thout stiff terms.
>>
>> Bill Ford was being interviewed yesterday and still pandering to the
>> UAW.  If Chrysler could shake the union and close a third of their
>> dealerships they'd be well along the way.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 4:34 PM, Brad Haslett <flybrad at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> David,
>>>
>>> Saw that earlier.  I flew the San Antonio trip all of October and
>>> talked to the locals about the new Toyota Tundra truck factory there.
>>> They've been doing mostly training and waiting for better times.  The
>>> new Toyota factory in Tupelo, MS is slowing down opening.  Chrysler
>>> usually shuts down for two weeks at Christmas for maintenance anyway
>>> so this is only two more weeks of shutdown, but, the UAW workers draw
>>> 95% pay during the shutdown. GM has some divisions that would do very
>>> well on their own. The Corvette would be fine in its niche.  Shanghai
>>> Buick is doing well.  Their trucks sell well.  I don't see how loaning
>>> them money will do anything but prolong the inevitable. They have the
>>> same problem as the passenger airlines - too many seats chasing too
>>> few asses.
>>>
>>> Brad
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 6:18 PM, David Bradley <dwbrad at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> And so it begins.
>>>>
>>>> Time for Toyota and Ford to steal market share...
>>>>
>>>> Time for GM to fold up the rest and become Chevrolet Corporation...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> NEWS ALERT
>>>> from The Wall Street Journal
>>>>
>>>> Dec. 17, 2008
>>>>
>>>> Chrysler said it will idle all manufacturing operations at the end of
>>>> the day Friday for at least a month in an effort to align production
>>>> and inventory with U.S. market demand.
>>>>
>>>> For more information, see:
>>>> http://wsj.com?mod=djemalertNEWS
>>>>
>>>> For complete coverage of Detroit in Crisis, see:
>>>> http://online.wsj.com/public/page/auto-industry.html?mod=djemalertNEWS
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