[Rhodes22-list] I would never join any club

Mon Feb 4 16:28:41 EST 2008

Mr Kuhn,

Given a couple of questions posed, I researched the 
matter further.  "I would never join any club that 
would have me as a member" is attributed to Groucho 
Marx in the grand majority of cases.  Mea culpa.

/Robert

"KUHN, LELAND" wrote:
> 
> Robert,
> 
> I always thought Woody Allen said that.  He probably stole it from Mark
> Twain.
> 
> Lee
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Skinner [mailto:robert at squirrelhaven.com]
> Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 11:04 AM
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Serves him right--MUST READ
> 
> Too right!  In any group of whatever persuasion, there are those who
> give the decent and thinking members a bad name.  It was Mark Twain
> who said (I believe) that he did not want to be a member of any
> organization who would have him join them.
> 
> Unfortunately, there are ultimately a limited number of choices for
> leadership in our two-party system.  Politics make strange (and often
> unsavory) bedfellows.
> 
> /Robert
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -
> Philip wrote:
> >
> > Unfortunately they are in the minority, I think.  Another professional
> was
> > doing the same thing at an airport in Denver a few years ago.  I can't
> > remember the details but I read about it while I was at CENTCOM.
> >
> > Philip
> >
> > "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the
> Constitution
> > which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of
> benevolence,
> > the money of their constituents...."  - James Madison
> >
> >  -----Original Message-----
> > From:   rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]  On Behalf Of Robert
> Skinner
> > Sent:   Sunday, February 03, 2008 10:30 PM
> > To:     The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > Subject:        Re: [Rhodes22-list] Serves him right--MUST READ
> >
> > Thanks for the story, Hank.  Grodner got a lot less than he deserved.
> >
> > I will note that there are those of a liberal bent who are decent
> > people, do not countenance this or other kinds of destructive
> > behavior, and support the rule of law.
> >
> > /Robert
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -
> > Hank wrote:
> > >
> > > Speaking about marines, you guys will like this story my uncle sent
> to me.
> > >
> > > Hank
> > >
> > >   I keep hearing that liberals support the troops but oppose the
> war.
> > Sounds
> > > like the hate the troops more than they oppose the war. nfs
> > >
> > > **Courtroom combat in the Riverside Press-Enterprise: ***
> > >
> > > The U.S. justice system should not tolerate even minor assaults on
> > military
> > > personnel. In the case of an Illinois Marine, we're glad to see the
> system
> > > work, even if it took an Internet-generated push.
> > >
> > > Thanks to a few Marines, both active-duty and retired, the story
> ends
> > well.
> > >
> > > On Dec. 1, Chicago lawyer Jay Grodner took offense at "Semper Fi"
> Marine
> > > Corps license plates on a black BMW. So the anti-war activist keyed
> the
> > car.
> > > The car's owner, Marine Sgt. Michael McNulty, saw him do it and had
> him
> > > arrested.
> > >
> > > The police wanted to charge Grodner with a misdemeanor. McNulty held
> out
> > for
> > > a felony charge, which the damage warranted. The prosecutor felt it
> was a
> > > minor case and urged the parties to make a deal, but neither was
> inclined
> > to
> > > do so.
> > >
> > > Complicating matters was the fact that McNulty was en route to Camp
> > > Pendleton for his second deployment to Iraq. He was slated to report
> Jan.
> > 2.
> > > The case was set for Dec. 31.
> > >
> > > At this point, a military-affairs blogger, BlackFive (
> > > http://www.blackfive.net ), posted the story. A BlackFive reader
> attended
> > > the Dec. 31 hearing and reported a crowd in the courtroom supporting
> > > McNulty, along with a new prosecutor -- Patrick Kelley, USMC
> 1969-72.
> > > Grodner also had the misfortune of having his case assigned to Judge
> > William
> > > O'Malley, USMC 1961-64.
> > >
> > > The case was resolved Monday when Grodner pleaded guilty. The judge
> > couldn't
> > > resist a little lecture. From the transcript:
> > >
> > > "You probably also wondered why there was a whole crowd of people
> here
> > > today, Mr. Grodner. That's because there is a little principle
> that**the
> > > Marine Corps has and has had since 1775, when they had fought and
> lost
> > their
> > > lives so that people like you could enjoy the freedom of this
> country; and
> > > that is a little proverb that we follow, that no Marine is left
> behind.
> > ***
> > >
> > > ** **
> > >
> > > **"So, Sgt. McNulty couldn't be here, but other Marines showed in
> his
> > stead.
> > > Take him away." **
> > >
> > > ** **
> > >
> > > **Grodner will do community service, spend a year on probation, pay
> > > restitution and then, if his promise to a newspaper columnist can be
> > > believed, move to France. **
> > >
> > > ** **
> > >
> > > **To the online Marine community, congratulations on a gratifying
> victory.
> > > *** ** And to Sgt. McNulty, come home safe. ***
> > >
> > > *You can see a little more on this if you go to Snopes.com and
> search *
> > >
> > > *under "Lawyer defaces Marines car". There was also an article in
> the *
> > >
> > > *Chicago** Tribune on Jan. 20th. I work with a lot of attorneys in *
> > >
> > > *Chicago**, and will inquire about this asshole - and pass on any
> tidbits
> > I
> > > *
> > >
> > > *pick up. Maybe we can set up a regular visitation to his
> home/office *
> > >
> > > *when anyone goes to Chicago! *
> > >
> > > *Link to Snopes *
> > >
> > > *http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/keyedcar.asp*
> > >
> > > http://urbangrounds.com/2007/12/30/jay-r-grodner/
> > >
> > > http://www.blackfive.net/main/2007/12/anti-military-l.html
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/chi-kass_03jan03,0,5792645,fu
> ll.c
> > olumn
> > >
> > >  ------------------------------
> > >
> > > I just love the Marines.
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