[Rhodes22-list] Chris Crispel - some sauce to you with the bone that you threw out.

Tue Feb 5 13:41:38 EST 2008

Can you imagine that?  A site that actually limits discussion to boats. 
What will they think of next?

>>rns<<

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rik Sandberg" <sanderico1 at gmail.com>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 12:18 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Chris Crispel - some sauce to you with the bone 
that you threw out.

> Brad,
>
> Yep, very nice boats. They do have a really nice picture site.
>
> But, yes, god forbid you talk about anything other than boats on their
> list. Not really much to go there for unless you have some question
> about the boat. Kinda like most sailing boards/lists, other than this
> one. Not much going on. I guess that's why people tend to stay on here, 
> eh?
>
> Rik
>
> Brad Haslett wrote:
>> Chris,
>>
>> Looks like a nice boat - dull owners group!
>>
>> Brad
>>
>> On Feb 4, 2008 7:47 PM, Chris Crispel <ccrispel at jeffnet.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Good Evening Ed:
>>>
>>> The Montgomery 23 is far from a pipe dream.  Montgomery has been selling
>>> boats for more years than I have under my belt.  I don't expect to run
>>> into
>>> a boat that has headroom that will allow me to stand erect, at least not
>>> in
>>> the trailerable category.  However, the Montgomery has 5'10.5" headroom,
>>> enough to allow me to move about without being on my knees (Rhodes).
>>>
>>> You and others will find Montgomery Boats by doing a Google search and 
>>> you
>>> will find their web site.  Click on the picture and scroll down and you
>>> will
>>> undoubtedly see the link to the 23.
>>>
>>> By my guest.
>>>
>>> Chris C
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Tootle" <ekroposki at charter.net>
>>> To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 4:56 PM
>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Chris Crispel - some sauce to you with the bone
>>> that you threw out.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Chris C:
>>>>
>>>> Where on the internet is some accurate information or pictures of this
>>>> Montgomery 23.  Or is it just a dream like Stan's 28?  At least with
>>>> Stan's
>>>> dream a hull exist.  I can give you the name of another company that
>>>> alleged
>>>> it was building a trailerable 28.  They were never able to fund it, so
>>>> still
>>>> build their bigger boat.
>>>>
>>>> Have you looked at:
>>>> http://www.etapyachting.com/index.php?pageID=50&lang=en
>>>> But the 28 still has only 6' 4" standing headroom.
>>>>
>>>> But nobody makes or designs small sailboats with your headroom.  Have
>>>>
>>> you
>>>
>>>> considered an open Viking boat?
>>>>
>>>> Ed K
>>>> Greenville, SC, USA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Chris Crispel wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Brad:
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm seriously considering a Montgomery 23, designed for the sea and
>>>>> transportable by trailor.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Brad Haslett" <flybrad at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 9:47 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 Evaluation
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Chris,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "A man got's to know his limits!"  I'd give you some advice on a
>>>>>> sailboat
>>>>>> that is just right for you at 6' 7" but off the top of my head I'd
>>>>>>
>>> have
>>>
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> suggest something from Royal Caribbean. BTW, I don't own a Rhodes
>>>>>> anymore
>>>>>> but this list varies between 80% sailboat and 20% social/political
>>>>>> commentary (or visa verse) and cyberspace gunfights.  Pick any issue
>>>>>>
>>> you
>>>
>>>>>> want unless it is against Stan, Rose, or Elton.  They aren't sacred
>>>>>> either
>>>>>> but you'll wish YOU were if you treat them with disrespect.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Brad
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 4, 2008 11:30 AM, Chris Crispel <ccrispel at jeffnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear Rhodes:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Last Saturday, Chris Geankoplis (commonly referred to as Da Greek),
>>>>>>> picked
>>>>>>> my wife and I up at our home (sold our car in anticipation of the
>>>>>>>
>>> sale
>>>
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> our home as the first step to our relocation to Panama) and drove us
>>>>>>>
>>> to
>>>
>>>>>>> his
>>>>>>> home in Medford (about 13 miles from Ashland) to where his wife,
>>>>>>>
>>> Alice,
>>>
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> The Boat resides.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We had plenty of opportunity to see the great cockpit, the
>>>>>>>
>>> comfortable
>>>
>>>>>>> coamings and storage built into it.  The area below was as clever 
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> unbelievable goodies found aboard a 22 ft boat.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> However, it was abundantly clear that the vessel is just to small 
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>> frame 6'7" and girth (these numbers will remain undisclosed).  The
>>>>>>> bedding
>>>>>>> in the main cabin could me made larger to accommodate me and the pop
>>>>>>> top
>>>>>>> could be raised another 3 inches and the seatback in the saloon 
>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> moved forward so that my head is not angled forward due to the
>>>>>>>
>>> ceiling
>>>
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> the head enclosure could be modified for my long knees, the hatch
>>>>>>>
>>> would
>>>
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> to open whenever I would need to use it, etc, etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In the final analysis, although a cork floats, (as does the foamed
>>>>>>> Rhodes)
>>>>>>> if you were in it at sea, it may not be the most comfortable
>>>>>>> environment
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> which to experience an even short ocean passage.  The cockpit
>>>>>>>
>>> although
>>>
>>>>>>> large
>>>>>>> and comfortable is potentially dangerous on an ocean going boat if
>>>>>>>
>>> the
>>>
>>>>>>> bow
>>>>>>> is lifted out of the water by the weight of the water in the 
>>>>>>> cockpit.
>>>>>>>  (yes,
>>>>>>> I know that there are three drains and the foam will not let the 
>>>>>>> boat
>>>>>>> sink)
>>>>>>> As we know all boats are a compromise and it appears that we are not
>>>>>>> prepared to make the number and types of compromises on a boat and
>>>>>>> trailer
>>>>>>> that will sell for close to $50,000.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chris, independent of my evaluation, seeing me in the boat and
>>>>>>> attempting
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> move around in it, feels that the vessel is just not sized for me
>>>>>>>
>>> and,
>>>
>>>>>>> further, it's intended use would put it out of the picture as well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, there you have it.  I would like to stick aroud on the website
>>>>>>>
>>> for
>>>
>>>>>>> awhile and enjoy all the political commentary and all the nautical
>>>>>>>
>>> talk
>>>
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> warms the cockels of my heart.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mucho Gracias
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chris C
>>>>>>>
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