[Rhodes22-list] Soup or Tuesday

[Steven Alm]

OK, Herb, no appology needed.  I knew you meant me when you said Hank.

But when I said "universally" I meant it.

Slim

On Feb 5, 2008 5:10 PM, john Belanger <jhnblngr at yahoo.com> wrote:

> the isolationist movement in the u.s. 1930's was based on not wanting to
> be involved in league of nations and world affairs. every nation has its own
> self interest at heart but when you say you don't give a ..... what other
> nations think of you, you are asking them to act accordingly. that attitude
> is counter productive to your own interests and will isolate you from your
> objective, if not from other nations, as well. !?!?  threatening to bomb
> them back to the stone age is not the way to elicit cooperation. standing up
> to others gets you respect....the threat of preemtive strike (possibly
> nuclear), and regime change gets you hated. i've said enough. going back to
> work on my boat. john b
>
> Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com> wrote:  Actually John, you're wrong
> on two counts. First of all, you took it
> entirely out of context, secondly, you obviously don't know what
> "isolationist" is.
>
> I said nothing about concerning ourself with only our own affairs. I
> said I don't give a rip about out stature in their eyes. I don't. We
> should do the right thing because it's the right thing, NOT because of
> what another country thinks.
>
> In instances where we need to be involved with other countries, we
> should do so - again, NOT because it increases our stature in their
> eyes, but because it's what we should do. In instances where we should
> kick their butts, we should do so even though they're not going to like
> us much afterwards.
>
> Often, "standing up to others" doesn't get you respect in the short run,
> it gets you hated.
>
>
>
> john Belanger wrote:
> > herb,
> > quote:"I DON'T GIVE A RIP about our stature in the eyes of other
> nations",
> > thats isolationist, when you only want to concern yourself with your own
> affairs regardless of what others think. i agree you should not choose your
> leader on the basis of what the world thinks of him/her, but we all want
> someone who can represent us to the world and stand up to others and be
> respected. john b
> >
> > Herb Parsons wrote:
> > Beg your pardon?? Show me where what I said was isolationist.
> >
> > I challenge you. You can't, because you're just blowing hot air.
> >
> > I specifically spoke to a very specific email, one that touted nothing
> > about a candidate except how much better he's going to make us look to
> > the rest of the world.
> >
> > If you think that makes me an isolationist, then you don't understand
> > the meaning of the word.
> >
> >
> > john Belanger wrote:
> >
> >> herb,
> >> you sound like an isolationist from the 30's. it didn't work then, and
> i don't think it works now. if we are not involved, and helping, to make the
> world a better place, then we are not worthy of respect by other nations.
> >>
> >> Herb Parsons wrote:
> >> And THERE you have one of the major problems in this country.
> >>
> >> An entire paragraph outlining why you would vote for the person to lead
> >> our country, and it all boils down to raising our stature in the eyes
> of
> >> other nations.
> >>
> >> I DON'T GIVE A RIP about our stature in the eyes of other nations, and
> I
> >> will NEVER choose a President on that basis.
> >>
> >> You obviously paid close attention the PC classes.
> >>
> >> Steven Alm wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> I'm going to caucus (when did that word become a verb?) for Yomamma
> tonight
> >>> in Minnesota. Just imagine the headlines around the world if he's
> elected
> >>> president. It would be the biggest story of the decade and would do
> more
> >>> to hoist our stature in the world than anything else we could do. The
> >>> whole world is watching this with 'bated breath (thank you Bill
> Effros--and
> >>> I miss him in this time of need.) For us to oust the incumbent party
> and
> >>> elect a black man would stop the presses in every country in the world
> and
> >>> our ill-fated, sickly reputation on the national stage would take a
> huge
> >>> step in showing the world we are forward-thinking. I say NO to four
> >>> presidents--Bush, Clinton, Bush, Clinton! It smacks of old boy's
> school.
> >>> It's so Banana Republic! And that, folks, is what it's down
> to--Clinton or
> >>> Obama. There's no way this country will put more of the same in
> office. We
> >>> swayed the congress last year in the mid-term election and nothing has
> >>> happened--this congress couldn't pass the law of gravity. We're ready
> for a
> >>> new sweep!
> >>>
> >>> I'm Slim and I approve this message.
> >>>
> >>> On Feb 4, 2008 11:30 PM, Brad Haslett wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Robert,
> >>>>
> >>>> Like the last line in "Charlie Wilson", "We'll see!"
> >>>>
> >>>> As a white male, I'm in the minority of the electorate and this is a
> >>>> republic not a true democracy, so my voice will still be heard. Won't
> it?
> >>>>
> >>>> Brad
> >>>>
> >>>> On Feb 4, 2008 10:02 PM, Robert Skinner wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> But Brad, how did the soup taste?
> >>>>> /Robert
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Brad Haslett wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> WARNING! Tasteless joke to follow.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> An old man was in a nursing home watching his girlfriend lifting
> her
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> dress
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> (with no panties) over her head and chanting, "Super Pussy, Super
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> Pussy!"
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> "Ill have the soup!"
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Super Tuesday. Mitt, the probable weasel or McShit the known
> weasel?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> Obama
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> who?, or the Clinton Klan we know well. If you don't know the
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>> Clinton's
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> by
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> now you haven't been paying attention or you are stupid.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> "Politics makes strange bedfellows" adapted from Bill Shakespeare.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I'm voting for Mitt but Hillary really looks attractive when she
> has
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>> the
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>> right weight of make-up on and the lighting is correct.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> God, please save my agnostic ass!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Brad
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> >>>>>>
> >>>>> --
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