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Herb Parsons
hparsons at parsonsys.com
Sat Feb 9 11:28:04 EST 2008
If he's not saying it, I will.
I was there. I saw it.
Yes, they did an outstanding job.
R22RumRunner at aol.com wrote:
> Brad,
> Let me see if I understand your position. You are saying that our government
> did an outstanding job in their effort to help the people after Katrina?
>
> Rummy
>
>
> In a message dated 2/9/2008 8:40:37 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> flybrad at gmail.com writes:
>
> Contrary to popular belief because of MSM spin, our armed forces were all
> over NOLA after Katrina. The National Guard had headquarters set-up on the
> fourth floor of the SuperDome parking garage. One of my co-workers, an Air
> Force reservist, personally flew the mission to move a temporary hospital to
> the Mississippi Gulf Coast the very next day, as soon as the weather
> cleared. Another co-worker, a Marine, evacuated his reserve units
> helicopters to Dallas and returned to NOLA immediately after the storm. The
> US Coast Guard flew thousands of rescue missions.The Navy had ships off the
> coast that delivered water via helicopter. When my company arrived on the MS
> coast, the National Guard kept the beach area secure for months. I say to
> any city who doesn't welcome our armed forces - fend for yourselves during
> the next natural disaster. Toledo, you're next!
>
> Brad
>
> --------------------
>
> Article published February 9, 2008
>
> Mayor to Marines: Leave downtown
> He says urban exercises scare people
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> Staff Sgt. Andre Davis talks to his commanding officer as he leaves the
> Madison Building after Mayor Carty Finkbeiner requested that the Marines
> leave the downtown location.
> ( THE BLADE/JEREMY WADSWORTH )
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> Photo
> Reprints <http://www.toledoblade.com/printroom>
>
> By JC REINDL <jcreindl at theblade.com>
> BLADE STAFF WRITER
>
> A company of Marine Corps Reservists received a cold send-off from downtown
> Toledo yesterday by order of Mayor Carty Finkbeiner. The 200 members of
> Company A, 1st Battalion, 24th Marines, based in Grand Rapids, Mich.,
> planned to spend their weekend engaged in urban patrol exercises on the
> streets of downtown as well as inside the mostly vacant Madison Building,
> 607 Madison Ave. Toledo police knew days in advance about their plans for a
> three-day exercise. Yet somehow the memo never made it to Mayor Finkbeiner,
> who ordered the Marines out yesterday afternoon just minutes before their
> buses were to arrive. "The mayor asked them to leave because they frighten
> people," said Brian Schwartz, the mayor's spokesman. "He did not want them
> practicing and drilling in a highly visible area." So after a brief stop at
> a friendly base in Perrysburg Township, the Marines by early evening were
> back on their way home to Grand Rapids. "I wish they would have told us this
> four hours ago," Staff Sgt. Andre Davis said. Sergeant Davis, who traveled
> ahead of the five-bus convoy, stepped from his vehicle into downtown about
> 3:20 p.m. and was told by a city employee that the mayor wanted him and his
> soldiers packed up and out by 6 p.m. Members of the 1st Battalion, 24th
> Marines have trained periodically in downtown Toledo since at least 2004 and
> most recently in May, 2006. Past exercises have involved mock gun fights,
> ambushes, and the firing of blank ammunition. The Marines' buses set a
> course for their battalion's Weapons Company headquarters in Perrysburg
> Township as soon as they heard of the mayor's decision. The Reservists'
> visit was no surprise to Toledo police, who Tuesday issued a news release to
> media outlets on behalf of the Marines that asked Toledoans not to be
> startled by the sight of camouflaged soldiers toting M16 rifles. Police
> officers were awaiting the Marines' arrival yesterday afternoon and had set
> up a roadblock at Madison Avenue and Huron Street. "There was apparently a
> break in communication somewhere between the mayor and the police
> department," Mr. Schwartz said. "Where that break was, we don't know yet."
> Maj.
> Jeffrey O'Neill, the company's commanding officer, said he was disappointed
> by how events played out yesterday, especially because Toledo had been a
> gracious host for Marine exercises in the past. "You can go to military
> ranges for live fire [exercises], but there's no way to duplicate the urban
> jungle unless you actually train inside a city," Major O'Neill said. Mr.
> Schwartz said the Marines declined Mayor Finkbeiner's alternative offer for
> them to practice their urban patrol tactics inside the former Jones Junior
> High School, 550 Walbridge Ave. Major O'Neill said he was not aware of such
> an offer. A pair of Marines spent the better part of yesterday setting up
> the Madison Building with generators, heaters, radios, and food to become
> the unit's overnight headquarters. After receiving the mayor's request to
> leave, they began the task of moving the equipment back into an armored
> Humvee. Lance Cpl. Brandon Bukrey-McCarty, 22, recalled taking part in the
> company's 2006 urban patrol exercise in downtown Toledo. He said he learned
> skills during that exercise that proved useful during the unit's deployment
> to Fallujah, Iraq, in 2006-2007. "It was extremely helpful," Corporal
> Bukrey-McCarty said. The training "got me used to looking up on rooftops,
> looking around every alley, every open door." Sergeant Davis and other
> company leaders estimated the total cost of the aborted training exercise,
> including travel, at roughly $10,000. Before he left downtown for Perrysburg
> Township, Major O'Neill said he was not sure what type of training, if any,
> his unit could undertake without access to downtown Toledo. "But we're
> Marines," Major O'Neill said. "We'll adapt and overcome."
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