[Rhodes22-list] Politics - chicken
Herb Parsons
hparsons at parsonsys.com
Wed Feb 13 11:21:33 EST 2008
And now I have to say I drew the wrong inference. We probably agree on
more than we disagree.
Herb Parsons wrote:
> Dang Stan, I'm going to have to respectfully withdraw my 1/2 vote. This
> November, I'm going to take an antacid, hold my nose, and vote for
> McCain. I believe that no matter what the reasons we go to war, once
> we've committed, we must make every effort possible to win at that
> endeavor. Hillary doesn't offer that option, Obama doesn't, and I'm
> drawing the inferance that you wouldn't either.
>
> I do agree on your tax views though (corporate income taxes are stupid,
> companies don't pay taxes, they collect them), as well as some of your
> other ideas.
>
> Maybe you can contact McCain and ask if he's decided on a running mate yet?
>
> stan wrote:
>
>> Thanks Dave and Claude
>>
>> With 2 and 1/2 votes (Herb) apparently locked up I think I will start an
>> exploratory committee.
>>
>> ss
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "David Bradley" <dwbrad at gmail.com>
>> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 1:30 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Politics - chicken
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Stan, a great perspective. What would you come up with if you took
>>> more time? Do they need a senator in NC?
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 12, 2008 9:55 AM, stan <stan at rhodes22.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Wish someone asked me
>>>>
>>>> Got to run so this will be quick:
>>>>
>>>> Stop the world (or at least the US) and take a deep breath
>>>>
>>>> Stop the bleeding - this means the dumbest war we ever got involved in.
>>>>
>>>> Stop terrorism by stopping its funding: oil and drugs
>>>>
>>>> stopping drugs is easy - make it legal
>>>>
>>>> stopping oil is a bit harder since people will say it costs more for
>>>> alternate energy - but that misses the point. The money spent gets
>>>> spent
>>>> here so what if it costs more. In the long run it costs less anyway,
>>>> since
>>>> fighting terrorism, as we are prone to try to do it, is a lot more costly
>>>> than the energy costs differential.
>>>>
>>>> By alternate energy I mean atomic, coal, ethanol, and a government
>>>> money
>>>> sponsored "man on the moon type program" to see if hydrogen and fuel
>>>> cells
>>>> have real promise. Who cares what all this costs as long as that money
>>>> is
>>>> spent in the US. We have so much oil in this country and surrounds we
>>>> could then be an oil exporter and clean up financially.
>>>>
>>>> Do away with all corporate taxes - a corporation is not a person and
>>>> just passes that cost along in a negative manner. Do away with all taxes
>>>> of
>>>> every sort except the income tax and make that simple and progressive.
>>>> (Do
>>>> you know how inefficient having secondary tax collection departments are
>>>> like tolls and sales taxes) In fact, at the risk of having Ed hoist the
>>>> hammer and sickle over my head, I would propose that, since this is a
>>>> capitalistic country, we put the government in a capitalistic businesses
>>>> that makes money so we could even do away with the IRS. What businesses
>>>> could the US government own: Oil, maybe transportation, medical
>>>> products -
>>>> give it some thought, even those who are blinded by words like socialism
>>>> can
>>>> come up with certain industries the government can run and make money on
>>>> while having congress as the board of directors and the citizens as
>>>> stockholders and no income taxes as dividends. Keep one tax, the
>>>> inheritance tax (there is no such thing as a death tax) because if you do
>>>> not you will eventually loose your beloved democracy and end up with a
>>>> new
>>>> form of rule by royalty and Brad will have one more things to shed tears
>>>> over when he hears this new royalty's altered national melody and words.
>>>>
>>>> Take the money and the time out of campaigning. Smart rules can do
>>>> it. Everytime we feel it can't get more indecent, the following election
>>>> again ups all antes until only the mob or the few inheritors of our
>>>> collective wealth will be able to throw their crown into the ring - which
>>>> by
>>>> then will be just a tradition anyway.
>>>>
>>>> Stop patch work cures like solving the current economic view with this
>>>> plan that will end up giving China tons more of our money. Take the
>>>> current
>>>> handout and do something like sponsor an intermediate energy step like
>>>> financing one 85% ethanol pump in all stations fanning out from some auto
>>>> building center so that that company can turn out the same cars in the US
>>>> that it now sells to Brazil. It will create more jobs, stop money from
>>>> leaving the country in oil purchasing, maybe save our
>>>> about-to-move-into-second place auto industry and, as it catches on (as
>>>> proven by Brazil), be self expanding - It hardly matters what the project
>>>> chosen (Huckabee suggested I-95 expansion) - just do it here and spend it
>>>> here and create jobs here.
>>>>
>>>> Stop the immigration nonsense. We need these workers. I can write a
>>>> complete paper on this issue. For now I can tell you that if you get rid
>>>> of
>>>> them you will get rid of what little manufacturing is left in this
>>>> country.
>>>> I can't believe we are not smart enough to solve this problem in a
>>>> productive way.
>>>>
>>>> Wake up to the fact that your body is a holistic machine. Get the
>>>> drug
>>>> company influence off the backs of medical science and start the emphasis
>>>> on
>>>> preventative medicine. In my opinion the reason the folks who try to get
>>>> a
>>>> job at GB have trouble using their brain is due to nutrition - they have
>>>> no
>>>> idea that what goes into their body is even more important than making
>>>> the
>>>> effort to see that they put the right stuff into their car. Start a
>>>> preventative medicine program starting with pregnant mothers who smoke
>>>> (since most of you believe life starts when a sperm finds its mark) and
>>>> if
>>>> they refuse, authorize the gun association to kill them so this lobbying
>>>> group would then have a worthwhile purpose by helping start the beginning
>>>> of
>>>> the ending or our endless expansion of our medical welfare costs..
>>>>
>>>> sorry, just getting started but am off to see the Wizard.
>>>>
>>>> Brad, I know you asked Robert, but this will teach you to give me even a
>>>> second hand opening.
>>>>
>>>> ss/ec/gbi
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Brad Haslett" <flybrad at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 11:20 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Politics - chicken
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Robert,
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's what Herb said, again, "So, how about producing some real
>>>>> concrete
>>>>> facts, or just admitting that it's just your left-wing propaganda".
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't neatly fit the label "right-wing" as Slim would like to believe
>>>>> nor
>>>>> do I think you fit into a "left-wing" label. What specific things would
>>>>> you
>>>>> like to see changed and how do you personally wish them to be changed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please refrain from Obama style, "Change we can believe in", "Hope",
>>>>> and
>>>>> other fluff, non-content positions, and faith-based statements.
>>>>>
>>>>> What specifically do you want the next President to reverse? Provide
>>>>> detail, please.
>>>>>
>>>>> Brad
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 12, 2008 9:35 AM, Robert Skinner <robert at squirrelhaven.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Herb Parsons wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> What you REALLY have is a deep resentment that in spite of what you
>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>> as a dangerous man, you couldn't muster the wherewithall to defeat
>>>>>>> him.
>>>>>>> So, how about producing some real concrete facts, or just admitting
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> it's just your left-wing propaganda.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Herb -
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bush has been very happy to risk the country over
>>>>>> and over again in the political equivalent of a
>>>>>> teenager's game of chicken. Time after time, he
>>>>>> has shown himself willing to destroy our economy
>>>>>> if he doesn't get his way. Now he is succeeding,
>>>>>> despite some YouTube propaganda.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What the Democrats have is a collection of
>>>>>> congressmen and senators who decided to put the
>>>>>> country's needs ahead of their own preferences.
>>>>>> In the process, they allowed many things to
>>>>>> become law that are repugnant to a civilized
>>>>>> people. (Yes, torture is uncivilized!)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They have witnessed, accepted, and presided over
>>>>>> the trashing of the social contract embodied in
>>>>>> our constitution and bill of rights, voiding the
>>>>>> mandate that put them in office.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This willingness to back down in the face of
>>>>>> superior bullheadedness and corporate bribes has
>>>>>> fueled youth's disgust with "establishment"
>>>>>> lawmakers of every stripe.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What a revolting development! The people who
>>>>>> will put the older generation into retirement
>>>>>> homes (read: jails for the unproductive) are
>>>>>> making themselves heard and seen.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To paraphrase that reprehensible mayor of
>>>>>> Washington, DC: "Get used to it, oldster."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> /Robert (a young oldster)
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