[Rhodes22-list] What Should I Have Done Differently?
stan
stan at rhodes22.com
Tue Feb 19 09:39:39 EST 2008
Mark,
sailing with the Rhodes IMF in 30 knot winds is great fun - call me and we
will go over it.
ss
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Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 8:08 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] What Should I Have Done Differently?
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> Great advice, thanks Dave.
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> From: David Bradley <dwbrad at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 12:49 am
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] What Should I Have Done Differently?
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> Mark, you've probably gotten your fill of advice by now. One thing I
> would add... once I'm clear of my slip I disconnect the steering
> mechanism from tiller to motor while still motoring. Does your
> outboard have a pin to lock it in position? The tiller will be 300%
> lighter in your hand, and you can then unfurl the sails, kill the
> motor and be underway, raising the motor when you're ready. I use the
> steering mechanism only when I'm in a tight area.
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> Dave
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> On Feb 18, 2008 12:55 PM, <mputnam1 at aol.com> wrote:
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>> Hello everyone,
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>> I am hoping you can help me learn from my sailing experience today. I
>> know I
> must have done some things wrong, but maybe I did a few things right
> because I
> was able to get back to the harbor safely in the end. Let me describe
> what
> happened and then ask a few questions. And let me apologize in advance
> for not
> getting all my nautical terms right … I'll do the best I can.
>>
>> My R-22 is kept at the Washington Sailing Marina on the Potomac River,
>> just
> across the river from DC. The weather this morning was unseasonably warm
> with
> winds in the 15-20 knot range with gusts up to 29, according to the coast
> guard
> weather report. I knew a cold front was approaching and that it would get
> windier as the day went on, but it was around 11am and while I was a
> little
> uncertain about going out, it was one of those rare weekdays when my lack
> of
> work intersected with wind on the water. So I decided to try and see if I
> could
> handle it and learn something at the same time. I had thought I'd read
> enough
> on this group about how to handle the boat in windier conditions – I
> wanted to
> put some of that knowledge to the test.
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>> I was single-handing the boat and motored out of the marina and down the
> Potomac to where I usually head for the center of the river before killing
> the
> engine, hauling it up and unfurling the main. Before I killed the engine,
> I
> noted that the water was choppy, but there were no white caps. I resolved
> to
> myself that if I began to see white caps, I'd head home. I pointed into
> the
> wind, killed the engine, hauled the engine up and only let out a little
> less
> than half of the main (having read so many posts on this group about being
> conservative in windier weather) and it almost immediately got out of my
> control.
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>> The boat swerved into a beam reach and began tipping over, so I let out
>> the
> main sheet to try and keep the mainsail from tipping me over. Right then
> I
> noticed that white caps had appeared (great timing on my part). The clew
> and
> the foot of the main sail was thrashing around, with a good amount of
> airspace
> between the clew and the boom.
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>> As an aside, I've never quite understood what is supposed to keep the
>> foot of
> the sail close to the boom besides just securing the sheet. In these
> stronger
> winds, the main was actively pulling away from the boom. Am I perhaps
> missing
> some key component to keep the bottom/foot of the main sail in tighter
> proximity
> to the boom?
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>> Because I had let out the main sheet to try and control the heeling, I
>> could
> not reach the line to furl the mainsail back into the mast. The line was
> out
> over the water. So I was having to try and pull the boom back into the
> cockpit
> to get a grip on the furling sheet … which, of course, led to more
> heeling. And
> when I pulled on the line to furl the main, it wouldn't furl.
>>
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>> And, most disturbingly, with so much wind filling the small amount of the
>> main
> that was out, I just couldn't furl the sail. It wouldn't budge. I also
> noticed
> that more of the main seemed to be inching out. I thought I had secured
> the
> main so it wouldn't further unfurl, but I don't remember if I had and I
> don't
> remember checking it in all the hullabaloo. It never fully unfurled,
> thank
> goodness, so maybe I had secured it to some degree.
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>> Anyway, every time I tried to point the boat into the wind, it didn't
>> help
> give me more slack to furl the main. It was noisy as hell, of course,
> which I
> expected. But I didn't get the slackness necessary to furl the main. And
> the
> boat didn't want to stay pointed into the wind, which I found a little
> surprising. I thought sailboats, when pointed into the wind, stayed
> there. But
> I guess I learned otherwise today!
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>> I eventually put the motor back in the water, cranked it up and powered
>> into
> the wind. The swells had increased to the point that the engine was
> coming up
> out of the water on every swell, but at least I was seeming to make
> progress. I
> then somehow pulled hard enough on the furling line to be able to furl the
> main.
> I don't know how I did it, but I did. At this point, I noticed that my
> tiller
> to engine linkage was not working. The 8hp Mercury motor I have only has
> one
> latch to hold the cowling onto the engine and it was failing with the
> severe
> pressure on the cowling, and the cowling was being ripped off the engine.
> I had
> to use the engine tiller to point the motor. I tried to disengage the
> linkage,
> but in the frenzy of the moment, I wasn't able to do that. So I just
> continued
> steering by using both the boat's tiller and the engine's tiller.
>>
>>
>>
>> I eventually made it closer to the shore where the wind wasn't as severe,
>> and
> was able to disengage the tiller linkage and made it back to the dock.
>>
>>
>>
>> So here are my questions:
>>
>>
>>
>> 1) First, the most basic question -- whenever I go out on 5 knot days, I
>> make
> little progress on the water. And if 15-20 knot days are too much, it
> seems a
> narrow window indeed that I am able to sail in. Is this the case? Is the
> R-22
> a boat that should only go out in 10-12 knot winds in order to best enjoy
> it?
>>
>>
>>
>> 2) What should I have done differently when the half unfurled main
>> immediately
> got out of my control? Should I have steered the boat DOWNwind? Would it
> have
> been easier to furl the main if I had done that? Or is steering the boat
> INTO
> the wind and the chop the right thing to do?
>>
>>
>>
>> 3) Is there something I should be doing differently so that the clew of
>> the
> mainsail doesn't get pulled so far away from the boom in windy weather?
> It
> seemed very loose and uncontrollable. This was one of the two most
> disconcerting parts of the experience (the other being the inability to
> furl the
> main).
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>>
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>> 4) In a worst case scenario where I can't furl the main (especially if
>> it's
> fully unfurled) in strong winds, should I just try to motor to shore with
> the
> main flapping away and catching wind? I didn't know in the situation I
> was in
> if the imperative is to a) try and furl the main first or b) to just get
> myself
> out of the windy area of the river even if it means motoring with the main
> unfurled. I was afraid that if I tried to do option b, that the boat
> could tip
> over if I was going in a direction that was putting the main into a
> position to
> be able to tip the boat. In retrospect, I'm now thinking that it's
> possible to
> motor with the main unfurled, as long as the main sheet is fully out and
> allowing the main to go wherever it wants to go.
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>>
>>
>> 5) Has anyone else with the tiller/engine linkage had a similar problem
>> in
> strong wind situations? The cowling only has the one latch on the back of
> the
> engine (furthest astern) and this one latch was clearly a weak point in
> situations of stress on the linkage. If I'm going to be relying on this
> linkage
> in bad weather conditions, do any of you have any advice on where and how
> I can
> get more latches put on my cowling? OR should I not attempt to use the
> linkage
> in stronger winds?
>>
>>
>>
>> 6) What should be the role of the motor in these situations? Is it the
>> first
> thing to engage to get the boat pointed in a particular direction? Or is
> it the
> last thing to resort to? Should I be able to furl the main without using
> the
> engine?
>>
>>
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>> I have to tell you, it was very disconcerting to have trouble furling the
> mainsail. I have loved the innermast furling main up until this point …
> but
> pulling with all my might on the line was doing nothing. It just refused
> to
> budge. I still don't know quite how I was able to get it finally furled.
> It
> must have had something to do with engaging the motor in the process, but
> I
> don't know for sure.
>>
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>> For anyone out there who is reading this and considering purchasing the
>> R-22,
> please know that I think this is a marvelous boat. The inner-furling mast
> is
> something that I've been very happy with up until today and perhaps it's
> all a
> function of this being too much wind for the boat. Or too much wind for
> me, a
> relatively inexperienced sailor.
>>
>>
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>> I don't know for sure the best way to learn how to sail in weather like
>> this …
> especially if I feel I have to go back to the dock as soon as there are
> white
> caps. Maybe there is someone out there who is experienced in this sort of
> weather AND knows the R-22 who can tutor me on-board in just this sort of
> weather, but finding that person would not be easy. But I am ready for
> any and
> all suggestions.
>>
>>
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>> Thanks for reading this very long email and I look forward to any and all
> advice … including "stay the hell out of 20 knot wind weather." Maybe
> that's
> the root of the problem, but it seems easy to imagine that going out in a
> 10
> knot day could easily turn into a 20 knot day with gusts in no time at
> all.
>>
>>
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>> Thanks everyone,
>>
>>
>>
>> - Mark P.
>>
>>
>>
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