[Rhodes22-list] Chris Crispel

[Mary Lou Troy]

Chris,
The Rhodes will be really uncomfortable in big waves. It is after all 
only 22 ft and displaces only 3000 lbs. It is sturdy and will take a 
fair amount of pounding but you do have a large cockpit and a poptop 
to consider. To fully close up the boat you have to tie the poptop 
down and put in the companionway board. (The R22 has a single hinged 
board.) The R22 will be dryer than most other boats its size because 
of the flared hull. If the weather services are good enough and you 
are willing to wait for weather windows you will probably be fine. 
People have taken the R22 to the Bahamas and Dry Tortugas. The Rhodes 
will handle the occasional thunderstorm. There are a couple of 
accounts in the FAQ that might interest you.

The first is an account by an admitted new sailor (at the time) and 
former R22 owner David Dawson about his high wind sail on the 
Chesapeake. Note that Chesapeake weather is not to be trifled with. 
Winds that in open water would put up manageable 4 ft waves will put 
up very steep waves with a very short period in the shallow water of the Bay.
http://www.geocities.com/blew_skies/dawson.html

The second is the account of a capsize in a severe thunderstorm 
(microburst). It should be noted that larger boats also capsized that day.
http://www.geocities.com/blew_skies/capsize.html

There is also an account of a sail to the Dry Tortugas but they had 
pretty benign conditions:
http://www.geocities.com/blew_skies/drytort.html

Best wishes,
Mary Lou
1991 R22  Fretless
Rock Hall, MD


At 06:30 PM 1/22/2008, you wrote:
>Yes, Robert I do understand mass in sailboats having owned about a dozen big
>boats in my lifetime.  What I want to find out is how she sails in non
>benign conditions, how she handles ocean swells, how dry is she, etc.
>
>Thanks
>
>Chris
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Robert Skinner" <robert at squirrelhaven.com>
>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 3:06 PM
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Chris Crispel
>
>
> > Chris,
> >
> > It's sort  of like the dirt track racing adage - "There is
> > no substitute for cubic inches."  When it comes to sailboats,
> > there is no substitute for mass low down.  On the other hand,
> > mass costs speed and fiberglass.
> >
> > The R22, like every boat, is a compromise.  She is light enough
> > to tow, sail fast, and produce for a reasonable price - and
> > heavy enough to be remarkably stable.  The beautifully
> > designed hull shape, with plenty of flare and freeboard,
> > greatly contributes to the R22's stability.
> >
> > That said, you need to get the feel of the boat any way you can
> > to see if she is for you.  You will be surprised at the amount
> > of easily useable interior space.
> >
> > /Robert
> >
> > Chris Crispel wrote:
> >>
> >> Thanks for the kind welcome, Robert.
> >>
> >> My question still stands about the boat's use for offshore sailing in
> >> Panama.  I would certainly like to hear about the boat's behavior in
> >> rough
> >> conditions-anything would help
> >>
> >> Many Thanks
> >>
> >> Chris
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Robert Skinner" <robert at squirrelhaven.com>
> >> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 1:31 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Chris Crispel
> >>
> >> > Chris - pay no attention to the needy guy in the Tootle suit.
> >> > He has not graduated from the R22 finishing school yet, but
> >> > we are working on him and hope to have him tuned up by 2010.
> >> >
> >> > In the mean time, you are welcome to hang around, ask
> >> > questions, offer help, have a beer, and generally enjoy
> >> > whatever company you want to keep.
> >> >
> >> > /Robert
> >> > -------------------------------------------------------------
> >> > "Michael D. Weisner" wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Ed,
> >> >>
> >> >> Attaboy, that ought to put a scare into him!  Ed, Mr WelcomeWagon,
> >> >> himself!
> >> >>
> >> >> Mike
> >> >> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
> >> >> Nissequogue River, NY
> >> >>
> >> >> From: "Tootle" <ekroposki at charter.net> Tuesday, January 22, 2008 11:42
> >> >> AM
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Chris,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Welcome to the Rhodes List.  Now, just who are you?  And where ya
> >> >> > be?
> >> >> > And
> >> >> > why ya here?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Ed K
> >> >> > Greenville, SC, USA
> >> >> > fishin' is like a box of chocolate.. u never no what your gonna
> >> >> > catch..
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > sometimes you catch nothing! Unattributed
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > View this message in context:
> >> >> > http://www.nabble.com/Chris-Crispel-tp15022481p15022481.html
> >> >> > Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > __________________________________________________
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> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> __________________________________________________
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> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Robert Skinner  "Squirrel Haven"
> >> > Gorham, Maine         04038-1331
> >> > s/v "Little Dipper" & "Edith P."
> >> > __________________________________________________
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> > --
> > Robert Skinner  "Squirrel Haven"
> > Gorham, Maine         04038-1331
> > s/v "Little Dipper" & "Edith P."
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