[Rhodes22-list] small boat sailing Re: Chris Crispel

Fri Jan 25 16:49:42 EST 2008

Stan,
You brought up the potential for a racing R22 a few years ago, but never any details.  What can you share with us?  What base cost would the boat have, additions to be added 'extras'.  I suspect there are more than just a few who would like to know this information.
R,
Art

-----Original Message-----
>From: stan <stan at rhodes22.com>
>Sent: Jan 24, 2008 5:04 PM
>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] small boat sailing  Re:  Chris Crispel
>
>cutting sail area, sailing with the boom in its lower position and making 
>good use of live ballast, has let me sail up to 30 before feeling 
>uncomfortable.  Actually the new boats are so much heavier that we had to 
>come out with an RCR (Rhodes Club Racer) lighter version for those wanting 
>to race.  The first RCR is going to a Rhodes owner who is keeping his 
>original Rhodes and buying the second one for racing use.
>
>ss
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Chris Crispel" <ccrispel at jeffnet.org>
>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 3:46 PM
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] small boat sailing Re: Chris Crispel
>
>
>> Stan:
>>
>> Have not ruled it out yet.  I think I would be able to sleep on the satees
>> in the main cabine when it is made up since they are 6'6" in length and
>> certainly wide enough for two intertwined people.
>>
>> Can you think of anything that can be done to the boat to make it more
>> stable for ocean travel. ie more weight in the keel, etc.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Chris
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "stan" <stan at rhodes22.com>
>> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 10:29 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] small boat sailing Re: Chris Crispel
>>
>>
>>> The 27 is a project for another company to tackle - this grand mom and 
>>> pop
>>> outfit can help but has its 4 hands full handling the 22.   Sounds like
>>> the
>>> Rhodes 22 is perfect for your wife but your specifications would call for
>>> your sleeping in the Rhodes 7'-4" cockpit.  But your live ballast specs
>>> would be very effective with the flared hull design.   Head room in the
>>> head
>>> is no problem with the open hatch offering infinity.
>>>
>>> But unless being able to trail and or sail in shallow waters and or also
>>> sell Rhodes to the SA market, is of value, your decision to get something
>>> bigger is correct.
>>>
>>> thanks for even thinking "Rhodes 22".
>>>
>>> stan/gbi
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Chris Crispel" <ccrispel at jeffnet.org>
>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 12:52 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] small boat sailing Re: Chris Crispel
>>>
>>>
>>>> Thanks Stan:
>>>>
>>>> Do you have any plans to complete the 27 that you have?  It would tend
>>>> to eliminate all of my concerns.  One note:  I am 6'7" and 275 lbs and
>>>> my wife is 5'10' and she won't tell me what she weighs.  But, as you
>>>> can see length of berths, head room (yes, the swell head as well) is a
>>>> factor in any decision.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Stan
>>>> On Jan 24, 2008, at 8:44 AM, stan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I might point out that Chris is the noted skipper sailing his old
>>>>> Rhodes in
>>>>> the cover  illustration of one of the latest books that they insist
>>>>> publishing about the Rhodes.   In this book the author, who is a
>>>>> Catalina
>>>>> man, waxes on to say, "From the deep blue ocean to shallow coves,
>>>>> the Rhodes
>>>>> covers it all.".
>>>>>
>>>>> ss
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Chris Crispel" <ccrispel at jeffnet.org>
>>>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 11:21 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] small boat sailing Re: Chris Crispel
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Your on!  Will give you a call tomorrow.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Chris Geankoplis" <napoli68 at charter.net>
>>>>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 8:06 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] small boat sailing Re: Chris Crispel
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Aw Chris,
>>>>>>>               What a bummer, I just opened my email after a bit of a
>>>>>>> haietus to find a felow (well potential) Rhodie right next door from
>>>>>>> Medford
>>>>>>> where I live.  Tell you what, I'll try to change your mind AND I
>>>>>>> buy the
>>>>>>> beer at Standing Stone.   Give me a call at 857-1061 anytime after
>>>>>>> 6 pm.
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> have a lot of sailing experience and have admitidly pushed the
>>>>>>> limits on
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> boat but didn't find them, well maybe that one time with the
>>>>>>> tornado........
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chris Geankoplis
>>>>>>> Medford, OR
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Chris Crispel" <ccrispel at jeffnet.org>
>>>>>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 5:44 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] small boat sailing Re: Chris Crispel
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes, Robert, unfortunately it looks that way.  Not enough boat
>>>>>>>> for my
>>>>>>>> intended use.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "Robert Skinner" <robert at squirrelhaven.com>
>>>>>>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 5:16 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] small boat sailing Re: Chris Crispel
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Chris, given what you have laid out as
>>>>>>>>> requirements, and the nature and depth
>>>>>>>>> of your objections, it appears that you
>>>>>>>>> have ruled out the Rhodes 22.  Is that
>>>>>>>>> the case?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> /Robert
>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>> Chris Crispel wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Mary Lou:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Most of the vessels that ply that country are at least 27'
>>>>>>>>>> vessels,
>>>>>>>>>> usually
>>>>>>>>>> with a cutaway full keel, or a fin keel with a lot of lead in the
>>>>>>>>>> fin.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>> From: "Mary Lou Troy" <mtroy at atlanticbb.net>
>>>>>>>>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 8:46 AM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] small boat sailing Re: Chris Crispel
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Chris,
>>>>>>>>>>> A few more thoughts.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I think Steve (Slim) makes a good distinction between two
>>>>>>>>>>> kinds of
>>>>>>>>>>> sailing. Do you want a small trailerable boat with its attendant
>>>>>>>>>>> characteristics or do you want a more solid ocean going boat
>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>> less trailerable. (Most boats under 40ft. are transportable if
>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>> have access to a crane (on both sides of the country) and a
>>>>>>>>>>> flatbed.
>>>>>>>>>>> The real consideration in my mind is how far you have to go and
>>>>>>>>>>> likely are you to get caught out in real weather - your
>>>>>>>>>>> definition
>>>>>>>>>>> but in my mind "real weather" does NOT include the passing
>>>>>>>>>>> squall.
>>>>>>>>>>> If
>>>>>>>>>>> you remember Paul Cleavenger's description of his capsize he
>>>>>>>>>>> says
>>>>>>>>>>> that had he been able to get the bow into the wind he might have
>>>>>>>>>>> weathered even the microburst. Note that the wave that
>>>>>>>>>>> capsized him
>>>>>>>>>>> built in a shallow river. I don't know the depths where you
>>>>>>>>>>> might
>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>> sailing but in true ocean depths waves won't build in a short
>>>>>>>>>>> squall.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I think the question for you may be how likely are you to get
>>>>>>>>>>> caught
>>>>>>>>>>> out in weather systems that raise the winds above 25 knots for a
>>>>>>>>>>> day
>>>>>>>>>>> at a time? Wind blowing 25 knots for 24 hours or more will
>>>>>>>>>>> build up
>>>>>>>>>>> bigger waves than a sudden brief squall. Somewhere between 20
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> 30
>>>>>>>>>>> knots, the Rhodes becomes less able to tack into the wind.  The
>>>>>>>>>>> windage of the flared hull, the freeboard and rigging combine
>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>> the larger waves throwing you about and it all catches up to
>>>>>>>>>>> you.
>>>>>>>>>>> If
>>>>>>>>>>> you are sailing on the ocean, what are the distances between you
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> a safe harbor? Would you have enough notice of a weather system
>>>>>>>>>>> coming in to get there?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We sail all over the Chesapeake in our Rhodes. Weather
>>>>>>>>>>> forecasting
>>>>>>>>>>> and delivery of weather information is good. We can pick our
>>>>>>>>>>> weather
>>>>>>>>>>> windows. Safe harbors are never more than 8 hours away.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> What do folks who sail your prospective cruising grounds sail?
>>>>>>>>>>> Are
>>>>>>>>>>> there boats under 30 ft? If folks are sailing newer small
>>>>>>>>>>> Catalinas
>>>>>>>>>>> and Hunters, they are probably not much more seaworthy than the
>>>>>>>>>>> Rhodes.We spend a lot of time with folks with bigger boats and
>>>>>>>>>>> while
>>>>>>>>>>> we are perhaps more cautious where the weather is concerned (our
>>>>>>>>>>> motto is "why get beat up if you don't have to?"), we don't miss
>>>>>>>>>>> much. For the most part we find that when we stay in because
>>>>>>>>>>> of the
>>>>>>>>>>> wind and waves, our friends in Catalinas stay in as well. Some
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>>>>>> friends in Island Packets or the guy with the Heritage West
>>>>>>>>>>> Indies
>>>>>>>>>>> 34
>>>>>>>>>>> will go out in higher winds and be comfortable.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Again best of luck with your decision,
>>>>>>>>>>> Mary Lou
>>>>>>>>>>> 1991 R22 Fretless
>>>>>>>>>>> Rock Hall, MD
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> At 09:48 AM 1/23/2008, you wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Steven:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You have given sound advice.  I was just about to pack it in
>>>>>>>>>>>> when I
>>>>>>>>>>>> received
>>>>>>>>>>>> your e-mail.  Of course your right and will proceed cautiously.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Again
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Steven Alm" <stevenalm at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 2:51 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Chris Crispel
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think it all depends on how you like to sail.  Obviously the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> R22
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> much
>>>>>>>>>>>>> more tender than a full keel boat like the Dana, Flicka, Cape
>>>>>>> Dory,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> whatever, but I've been caught in high winds and have been way
>>>>>>>>>>>>> over-powered
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and dunked my rails and shipped water into the cockpit many
>>>>>>>>>>>>> times.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't mind riding a spirited horse then you'll be fine.  The
>>>>>>>>>>>>> boat
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> seaworthy as hell but in high winds, you're in for some "X
>>>>>>> sailing."
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Secure
>>>>>>>>>>>>> your gear and sail her like a laser.  I'm fine with that and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> boat's
>>>>>>>>>>>>> fine
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with that, but the Mrs. doesn't like it that much.  Therein
>>>>>>>>>>>>> lies
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> question:  What does the Mrs. want?  I've finally learned to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> reef
>>>>>>>>>>>>> way
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hell in and sail upright in high winds and keep the crew happy
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> safe.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is the beauty of the Rhodes IMF with furling
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Genny--infinite
>>>>>>>>>>>>> reefing
>>>>>>>>>>>>> capabilities.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That said, the highest wind you can comfortably sail the R22
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 27.  Beyond that the hull has too much windage to tack about.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> case
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you have to jibe about, but you can still make way.  And if
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you're
>>>>>>>>>>>>> going
>>>>>>>>>>>>> downwind, you'll be a happy guy!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> As for toughness, the R22 has 9 stays--each with it's own
>>>>>>>>>>>>> chainplate.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You
>>>>>>>>>>>>> could lose any two and the mast would still stand.
>>>>>>> Ummm...probably.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You said you are enamored by the Rhodes (as well you should
>>>>>>>>>>>>> be)
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> her
>>>>>>>>>>>>> many
>>>>>>>>>>>>> great features.  You said you want to explore the islands-- 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> combination keel of the Rhodes you can easily beach your
>>>>>>>>>>>>> boat on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> those
>>>>>>>>>>>>> islands.  You certainly can't do that with a full keel.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're an experienced sailor and you know big WX can f**k
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you up
>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>>>>>> matter
>>>>>>>>>>>>> what boat you're on.  Examine your needs and wants and ask
>>>>>>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>>>>>> questions
>>>>>>>>>>>>> here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Re Panama, the San Blas are on the Caribbean side which is far
>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>>>>>> calm
>>>>>>>>>>>>> than the Pacific.  I think you'd be fine with the R22.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Slim
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 23, 2008 12:50 AM, john Belanger <jhnblngr at yahoo.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i have to ask a question. why are you buying a boat here and
>>>>>>> taking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> panama? are you sailing it to panama, shipping it or driving
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> down
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a trailer?  i may have missed part of your explanation,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> somewhere
>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sorry,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just don't get it. are you going to be on the atlantic  or
>>>>>>> pacific
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> side?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris Crispel <ccrispel at jeffnet.org> wrote:  You mean like a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> larger,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> heavier boat with a diesel engine and prop (under
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the hull)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks, you and others are helping me make a decision.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Just bent"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 7:10 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Chris Crispel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have not been sailing long but I have been out in some big
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weather
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> R22, (on a lake) and the one thing that was a problem for me
>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> motor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hanging off the back of the boat. I was rolling so much the
>>>>>>> prop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> come
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out of the water. I remember thinking it might be better if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> under the boat.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jb
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just bent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris Crispel wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Tootle:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm here on "the list" because I have been taken with the
>>>>>>> Rhodes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 22
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a major question that needs to be put to the members of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My wife and I will be moving to the Republic of Panama to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> future
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> home. As you may know, there are no bays (to speak of) or
>>>>>>> lakes,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ocean. My question is multifaceted- have any of you sailed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> offshore
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rhodes?, how does she handle ocean swells, what adjustments
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (modifications)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would you make to increase safety and comfort aboard.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, I
>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one can sail in a cork, but who wants to be battered about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ocean.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have been sailing since the age of 16 and now I'm way,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beyond
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am a highly experienced sailor and my common sea sense is
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vessel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is to small and subject to being tossed about like a cork.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> please
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tell
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me that I am wrong and making to much out of this.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I currently reside in Ashland, Oregon and would love to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meet
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owners
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and their vessels. California and Oregon are the States
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possible. However, if I can't meet everyone, then I will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> satisfied with "the list".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris Crispel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Tootle"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 8:42 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Chris Crispel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Welcome to the Rhodes List. Now, just who are you? And
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where
>>>>>>> ya
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> why ya here?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ed K
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Greenville, SC, USA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fishin' is like a box of chocolate.. u never no what your
>>>>>>> gonna
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> catch..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sometimes you catch nothing! Unattributed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nabble.com.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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