[Rhodes22-list] Water Under V Berth? Water in side & forwardbilges; Reply...

Tue Jul 1 11:44:08 EDT 2008

Andrew,
Speaking from first hand experience, I can assure you that when laid over,  
the sink drain is indeed in the water. I do not know if it would allow water  
into the cabin because it would depend on the height of the sink at that angle. 
 My guess would be that the water came in from the hull/deck joint. It's an 
easy  thing to fix. Once again, it's been covered many times on this list, but 
if you  can't find anything in the archives, I will be glad to repeat the 
instructions I  got from Sir Stanley.
Another source of water could be your water tank. It has an air valve that  
could let water out when laid over. Do you know if the water in the bilge was  
salt water or fresh water?????

Rummy

In a message dated 7/1/2008 11:00:47 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
engineerpac at gmail.com writes:

Rob

Backflow through the sink is possible as it is open, but the  increased
flotation when the flare is in the water would probably still  keep the drain
at some height above the  water.

Andrew

On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Lowe, Rob  <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote:

> Andrew,
> If it's the starboard  side and it was a knock down situation, how about
> backflow through the  sink drain?  - rob
>
>
>
> -----Original  Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>  [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of andrew  collins
> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 4:51 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22  Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Water Under V Berth? Water in  side &
> forwardbilges; Reply to Andrew, Michael C et  al...
>
> MJM and Ed
>
> The water is behaving as  Michael described. The bilge is now dry with
> very
> little water  seeping in from the adjacent bilge compartments, so
> happiness
>  abounds. Three or four 1/4" holes thru the partitions from the bilge  to
> the
> forward and port compartments will speed up drtainage  if it happens
> again.
>
> The boat is a 1986 recycled in  2006. Leakage has historically been wind
> driven rain into the  starboard hatch and under the pop top, but this
> last
> one only  when on the trailer. My guess is that the wind builds up a
>  little
> wavelet at the pop top and manages to push it over the lip. The  amount
> is
> not worth worrying about.
> All thru hull  fittings are closed and connections are dry. New hoses
> were
>  fitted this year.
> The source of water from the knock down: now  wouldn't I like to know!
> From
> drip marks and debris trails on  the interior of the hull under the
> galley
> counter, I reckon it  was on its starboard side (also the port fender was
> in
> the  cockpit). So the hull deck joint is the prime suspect, and this will
>  get
> inspected in the fall. No water seemed to come in through  ports,
> hatches, or
> companionway, the carpet was dry ... so the  forensic effort CSI Grass
> Island is ended.
>
> I will  search the archives for the deck-hull connection info and/or
>  caulking
> procedure.
>
> Thanks for the  advice.
>
> Andrew
> s/v  Carmen
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 7:43 AM, Tootle  <ekroposki at charter.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >
>  > Andrew & Michael C:
> >
> > Andrew, I do not  remember where you are or what year your boat is.  A
> >  little
> > more information would be helpful.  Regardless, you  need to
> immediately
> > determine the source of the  water.
> >
> > Possible sources include the vent that  Michael C keeps asking about.
> Or,
> > is
> > it your  fresh water tank or hoses and connections to it?  A search of
>  the
> > archives might reveal where another boat needed a new tank or  hoses
> (for
> > sure).  This issue needs to be addressed  before you sustain water
> damage.
> >
> > Michael C -  the shelf is where it was... yes, it can catch stray drops
> of
>  > water.  The idea was not mine, so there are other Nicro vents  out
> there on
> > Rhodes 22's.  What they did with their  trays is a question waiting for
> an
> > answer.
>  >
> > About the list answering questions lately, there are reasons  for the
> > failure
> > of the list to appropriately and  quickly respond to questions.  This
> is
> > prime  vacation time.  There are several members of the forum on
>  vacation
> > this week and others getting ready to go next  week.
> >
> > Then there are the archives and newbies need  to use them.  Older
> members
> > have answered the same  questions many times.  I joined this motley
> crew in
> >  the last century.  At a point some just get tired of typing the  same
> words
> > and answers, so use the archives to do simple  research.  If you do not
> know
> > how, ask.
>  >
> > Then another answer is political.  This forum has a  predominance of
> social
> > democrats and beltway bureaucrats  who talk a good deed but stumble on
> > routine blue collar  help.  The exception is the signee who claims to
> be an
>  > enlightened capitalist.  The help that this list has given  is
> gratuitous.
> > Unfortunately many recipients' of the  help, no longer nor maybe never
> have,
> > feel any obligation  to continue the gift.
> >
> > Furthermore, there are those  who ascribe to keeping the list email
> volume
> > low.   The failure to do so has irritated them that they no longer
> >  subscribe.
> > While this is a loss, it is really a demonstration of  a short fuse or
> the
> > above stated failure to continue the  gift.
> >
> > Andrew, I encourage you to repost your  questions and research the
> archives.
> > Again, find the  source of the water problem.
> >
> > Ed K
> >  Greenville, SC, USA
> >
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