[Rhodes22-list] Sorry I meant the "new" Yamaha 8 or 9.9 hp

[KUHN, LELAND]

Mary Lou,

Yes, you need to disconnect the motor tiller link to raise the motor.
It's no pain at all.  Pull a pin a move the arm back over the rudder.
Everything stays attached.  You can check it out on my boat--once you
try it, I'm convinced you'll buy it.  I have no idea how much it costs
but it can't be much even with Stan's R&D expenses.  It wouldn't be too
difficult to fabricate one but the gas prices from Rock Hall to Kent
Island Hardware would kill you.

Lee


-----Original Message-----
From: Mary Lou Troy [mailto:mtroy at atlanticbb.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 11:40 AM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Sorry I meant the "new" Yamaha 8 or 9.9 hp

Lee,
Do you have to disconnect the motor tiller link to raise the motor? 
How much of a pain is it to do that? Do you have to store any of the 
parts or do they all stay attached? We still don't have a lot of 
experience with our Yamaha but so far we haven't been able to 
maneuver the boat as well at slow speeds in tight situations as well 
as we did with the old Honda. We've always just steered with the 
rudder. I suspect it's more a matter of learning to coordinate the 
power of the new motor with the rudder but the tiller to rudder 
linkage may be the last resort.

Mary Lou
1991 R22 Fretless
Rock Hall, MD

At 10:05 AM 7/2/2008, you wrote:
>Mike,
>
>"What my Admiral and I will miss from the UPP package is the
>rudder/motor interconnect."
>
>The tiller-mounted controls and motor-tiller link are two separate
>things.  Check with Stan, but I think he gives you the inexpensive
>motor-tiller link without asking (ask anyway).
>
>I've used the tiller-mounted controls and they're wonderful, but the
>motor-tiller link is much more important.  With all the crap (useful
>accessories) on the transom, it's difficult to steer the boat by
turning
>the motor alone, so without the link I assume you would set the motor
>straight and steer with the tiller alone.  Steering with the tiller and
>motor together gives you a lot of maneuverability when docking.
>
>I consider it one of the best features of the Rhodes.
>
>Lee
>1986 Rhodes22  At Ease
>Kent Island, MD
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Mike Cheung [mailto:mikecheung at att.net]
>Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 7:40 AM
>To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sorry I meant the "new" Yamaha 8 or 9.9 hp
>
>
>David,
>
>Thanks for responding, but "my bad" ... I meant the "new" T8ELH or
>T9.9ELH
>outboards with the gearshift and throttle controls on the motor tiller
>(as
>opposed to the sailboat tiller).  Apparently the UPP with sailboat
>tiller
>mounted controls was developed for a motor that's no longer available
>new
>and Stan is using either used motors with the controls on the sailboat
>tiller or a new Yamaha 8 hp motor (the T8ELH I presume) that has the
>controls for both the throttle and gearshift on the motor tiller.  Stan
>doesn't relocate the controls with these newer motors.  Apparently the
>old
>motor was the only one Stan had found where the remote cables came out
>the
>side of the motor housing rather than the front.  With the cables
coming
>out
>the front there is apparently some issue with cable bending radius and
>binding.
>
>My Admiral and I got to use the UPP on Stan's test boat and liked it,
>but
>don't think the extra cost is really worth it in this case.  Stan is
>really
>his own worst competition here as his 7:1 manual system sounds very,
>very
>good.  Anyway we're looking for feedback on the new T8ELH from Yamaha
>and
>the even newer T9.9ELH both of which have the gear shift right behind
>the
>throttle on the motor tiller.  Not quite as good as having them on the
>sailboat tiller, but not bad if they're easy to reach from the port
>stern
>seat.
>
>Guess I don't know what the old motors weigh, the T8ELH comes in at
>right
>about 80 lbs.  Manageable by one, easy for two (or one with some
>mechanical
>advantage).
>
>What my Admiral and I will miss from the UPP package is the
rudder/motor
>interconnect.  That was great and if we can't get Stan to unbundle that
>from
>a UPP package we'll have to work on engineering one ourselves.
>
>Mike Cheung
>
>
>
>
>David Bradley wrote:
> >
> > Mike, I have the 9.9 with UPP and tiller-mounted control.  I love
it.
> > Can cruise at hull speed at about 2/3 throttle.  Power when you need
> > it in a strong current, for maneuvering, etc.  Relatively quiet.
It's
> > heavy, so I don't look forward to the day I need to take it off the
> > boat...
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 5:39 PM, Mike Cheung <mikecheung at att.net>
>wrote:
> >>
> >> Anyone running one of the Yamaha 8 or 9.9 hp outboards with the
>gearshift
> >> on
> >> the tiller? How do you like it?
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