[Rhodes22-list] Yamaha 8hp motor source?

[William McCready Jr.]

Mike C.,
 
Stan recommended the 8hp Yamaha when I met with him to decide on a boat so just last week I bought an 8hp Yamaha with 20" shaft for my recycled '90 Rhodes.  Haven't had a chance to use since boat won't be ready until mid to late July. I paid $2058 includes MD 6% sales tax (ouch) and a $100 Yamaha discount ended 6/30. Called Stan to confirm the 20" shaft is adequate and he confirmed it was.> From: rhodes22-list-request at rhodes22.org> Subject: Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 1544, Issue 1> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 12:00:22 -0400> > Send Rhodes22-list mailing list submissions to> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to> rhodes22-list-request at rhodes22.org> > You can reach the person managing the list at> rhodes22-list-owner at rhodes22.org> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific> than "Re: Contents of Rhodes22-list digest..."> > > Today's Topics:> > 1. Re: Sorry I meant the (Arthur H. Czerwonky)> 2. Re: Sorry I meant the (Arthur H. Czerwonky)> 3. Re: Sorry I meant the (Jack Chirch)> 4. Genoa Furling Problems (Joe Babb)> 5. 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Czerwonky" <czerwonky at earthlink.net>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Sorry I meant the> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>> Message-ID:> <2366579.1215053821204.JavaMail.root at elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8> > Jack,> Attached to motor and tiller side - attached at a point on each which is equidistant from the pivot points - 90 degree bimini deck mounts.> Attached between - Approx 10-12" 7/8" OD SS tube with eye ends on each end.> Simply match the eyes with the bimini mounts. I'd use quick disconnects for easy removal of the tube, freeing up non-linked motor motion (raising, etc.) Mount so that the screw for the bimini mounts is vertical and both rudder and motor can turn easily in sync. I don't think Stan would have this for sale - West (or Boater's World) should. Does that help?> Art> > -----Original Message-----> >From: John Chirch <jchirch at gmail.com>> >Sent: Jul 2, 2008 8:51 AM> >To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Sorry I meant the> >> >Art: What constitutes "proper fittings"? Does GB carry them? or a kit,> >maybe?> >> >Jack> >> >On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 9:07 AM, Arthur H. Czerwonky <czerwonky at earthlink.net>> >wrote:> >> >> Mike,> >> You can link rudder to motor with about 12" of tube from West with proper> >> fittings on each end.> >> Art> >>> >> -----Original Message-----> >> >From: Mike Cheung <mikecheung at att.net>> >> >Sent: Jul 2, 2008 6:39 AM> >> >To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> >> >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sorry I meant the "new" Yamaha 8 or 9.9 hp> >> >> >> >> >> >David,> >> >> >> >Thanks for responding, but "my bad" ... I meant the "new" T8ELH or T9.9ELH> >> >outboards with the gearshift and throttle controls on the motor tiller (as> >> >opposed to the sailboat tiller). Apparently the UPP with sailboat tiller> >> >mounted controls was developed for a motor that's no longer available new> >> >and Stan is using either used motors with the controls on the sailboat> >> >tiller or a new Yamaha 8 hp motor (the T8ELH I presume) that has the> >> >controls for both the throttle and gearshift on the motor tiller. Stan> >> >doesn't relocate the controls with these newer motors. Apparently the old> >> >motor was the only one Stan had found where the remote cables came out the> >> >side of the motor housing rather than the front. With the cables coming> >> out> >> >the front there is apparently some issue with cable bending radius and> >> >binding.> >> >> >> >My Admiral and I got to use the UPP on Stan's test boat and liked it, but> >> >don't think the extra cost is really worth it in this case. Stan is> >> really> >> >his own worst competition here as his 7:1 manual system sounds very, very> >> >good. Anyway we're looking for feedback on the new T8ELH from Yamaha and> >> >the even newer T9.9ELH both of which have the gear shift right behind the> >> >throttle on the motor tiller. Not quite as good as having them on the> >> >sailboat tiller, but not bad if they're easy to reach from the port stern> >> >seat.> >> >> >> >Guess I don't know what the old motors weigh, the T8ELH comes in at right> >> >about 80 lbs. Manageable by one, easy for two (or one with some> >> mechanical> >> >advantage).> >> >> >> >What my Admiral and I will miss from the UPP package is the rudder/motor> >> >interconnect. That was great and if we can't get Stan to unbundle that> >> from> >> >a UPP package we'll have to work on engineering one ourselves.> >> >> >> >Mike Cheung> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >David Bradley wrote:> >> >>> >> >> Mike, I have the 9.9 with UPP and tiller-mounted control. I love it.> >> >> Can cruise at hull speed at about 2/3 throttle. Power when you need> >> >> it in a strong current, for maneuvering, etc. Relatively quiet. It's> >> >> heavy, so I don't look forward to the day I need to take it off the> >> >> boat...> >> >>> >> >> Dave> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 5:39 PM, Mike Cheung <mikecheung at att.net> wrote:> >> >>>> >> >>> Anyone running one of the Yamaha 8 or 9.9 hp outboards with the> >> gearshift> >> >>> on> >> >>> the tiller? How do you like it?> >> >>> --> >> >>> View this message in context:> >> >>> http://www.nabble.com/Yamaha-8-or-9.9-hp--tp18228090p18228090.html> >> >>> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.> >> >>>> >> >>> __________________________________________________> >> >>> To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go to> >> >>> http://www.rhodes22.org/list> >> >>> __________________________________________________> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> --> >> >> David Bradley> >> >> +1.206.234.3977> >> >> dwbrad at gmail.com> >> >> __________________________________________________> >> >> To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go to> >> >> http://www.rhodes22.org/list> >> >> __________________________________________________> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >--> >> >View this message in context:> >> http://www.nabble.com/Yamaha-8-or-9.9-hp--tp18228090p18235600.html> >> >Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.> >> >> >> >__________________________________________________> >> >To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go to> >> http://www.rhodes22.org/list> >> >__________________________________________________> >>> >> __________________________________________________> >> To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go to> >> http://www.rhodes22.org/list> >> __________________________________________________> >>> >__________________________________________________> >To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list> >__________________________________________________> > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 2> Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 21:56:50 -0500 (GMT-05:00)> From: "Arthur H. Czerwonky" <czerwonky at earthlink.net>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Sorry I meant the> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>> Message-ID:> <6701401.1215053810780.JavaMail.root at elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8> > Jack,> Attached to motor and tiller side - attached at a point on each which is equidistant from the pivot points - 90 degree bimini deck mounts.> Attached between - Approx 10-12" 7/8" OD SS tube with eye ends on each end.> Simply match the eyes with the bimini mounts. I'd use quick disconnects for easy removal of the tube, freeing up non-linked motor motion (raising, etc.) Mount so that the screw for the bimini mounts is vertical and both rudder and motor can turn easily in sync. I don't think Stan would have this for sale - West (or Boater's World) should. Does that help?> Art> > -----Original Message-----> >From: John Chirch <jchirch at gmail.com>> >Sent: Jul 2, 2008 8:51 AM> >To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Sorry I meant the> >> >Art: What constitutes "proper fittings"? Does GB carry them? or a kit,> >maybe?> >> >Jack> >> >On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 9:07 AM, Arthur H. Czerwonky <czerwonky at earthlink.net>> >wrote:> >> >> Mike,> >> You can link rudder to motor with about 12" of tube from West with proper> >> fittings on each end.> >> Art> >>> >> -----Original Message-----> >> >From: Mike Cheung <mikecheung at att.net>> >> >Sent: Jul 2, 2008 6:39 AM> >> >To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> >> >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sorry I meant the "new" Yamaha 8 or 9.9 hp> >> >> >> >> >> >David,> >> >> >> >Thanks for responding, but "my bad" ... I meant the "new" T8ELH or T9.9ELH> >> >outboards with the gearshift and throttle controls on the motor tiller (as> >> >opposed to the sailboat tiller). Apparently the UPP with sailboat tiller> >> >mounted controls was developed for a motor that's no longer available new> >> >and Stan is using either used motors with the controls on the sailboat> >> >tiller or a new Yamaha 8 hp motor (the T8ELH I presume) that has the> >> >controls for both the throttle and gearshift on the motor tiller. Stan> >> >doesn't relocate the controls with these newer motors. Apparently the old> >> >motor was the only one Stan had found where the remote cables came out the> >> >side of the motor housing rather than the front. With the cables coming> >> out> >> >the front there is apparently some issue with cable bending radius and> >> >binding.> >> >> >> >My Admiral and I got to use the UPP on Stan's test boat and liked it, but> >> >don't think the extra cost is really worth it in this case. Stan is> >> really> >> >his own worst competition here as his 7:1 manual system sounds very, very> >> >good. Anyway we're looking for feedback on the new T8ELH from Yamaha and> >> >the even newer T9.9ELH both of which have the gear shift right behind the> >> >throttle on the motor tiller. Not quite as good as having them on the> >> >sailboat tiller, but not bad if they're easy to reach from the port stern> >> >seat.> >> >> >> >Guess I don't know what the old motors weigh, the T8ELH comes in at right> >> >about 80 lbs. Manageable by one, easy for two (or one with some> >> mechanical> >> >advantage).> >> >> >> >What my Admiral and I will miss from the UPP package is the rudder/motor> >> >interconnect. That was great and if we can't get Stan to unbundle that> >> from> >> >a UPP package we'll have to work on engineering one ourselves.> >> >> >> >Mike Cheung> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >David Bradley wrote:> >> >>> >> >> Mike, I have the 9.9 with UPP and tiller-mounted control. I love it.> >> >> Can cruise at hull speed at about 2/3 throttle. Power when you need> >> >> it in a strong current, for maneuvering, etc. Relatively quiet. It's> >> >> heavy, so I don't look forward to the day I need to take it off the> >> >> boat...> >> >>> >> >> Dave> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 5:39 PM, Mike Cheung <mikecheung at att.net> wrote:> >> >>>> >> >>> Anyone running one of the Yamaha 8 or 9.9 hp outboards with the> >> gearshift> >> >>> on> >> >>> the tiller? How do you like it?> >> >>> --> >> >>> View this message in context:> >> >>> http://www.nabble.com/Yamaha-8-or-9.9-hp--tp18228090p18228090.html> >> >>> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.> >> >>>> >> >>> __________________________________________________> >> >>> To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go to> >> >>> http://www.rhodes22.org/list> >> >>> __________________________________________________> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> --> >> >> David Bradley> >> >> +1.206.234.3977> >> >> dwbrad at gmail.com> >> >> __________________________________________________> >> >> To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go to> >> >> http://www.rhodes22.org/list> >> >> __________________________________________________> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >--> >> >View this message in context:> >> http://www.nabble.com/Yamaha-8-or-9.9-hp--tp18228090p18235600.html> >> >Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.> >> >> >> >__________________________________________________> >> >To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go to> >> http://www.rhodes22.org/list> >> >__________________________________________________> >>> >> __________________________________________________> >> To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go to> >> http://www.rhodes22.org/list> >> __________________________________________________> >>> >__________________________________________________> >To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list> >__________________________________________________> > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 3> Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 23:05:20 -0400> From: "Jack Chirch" <jchirch at gmail.com>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Sorry I meant the> To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>> Message-ID: <7DB9DB58BEBA4AB2A561A0B2FA1C5CAE at Ishtar>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"> > Got it! Thanks, Art > > -----Original Message-----> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Arthur H. Czerwonky> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 10:57 PM> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Sorry I meant the> > Jack,> Attached to motor and tiller side - attached at a point on each which is> equidistant from the pivot points - 90 degree bimini deck mounts.> Attached between - Approx 10-12" 7/8" OD SS tube with eye ends on each end.> Simply match the eyes with the bimini mounts. I'd use quick disconnects for> easy removal of the tube, freeing up non-linked motor motion (raising, etc.)> Mount so that the screw for the bimini mounts is vertical and both rudder> and motor can turn easily in sync. I don't think Stan would have this for> sale - West (or Boater's World) should. Does that help?> Art> > -----Original Message-----> >From: John Chirch <jchirch at gmail.com>> >Sent: Jul 2, 2008 8:51 AM> >To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Sorry I meant the> >> >Art: What constitutes "proper fittings"? Does GB carry them? or a kit,> >maybe?> >> >Jack> >> >On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 9:07 AM, Arthur H. Czerwonky > ><czerwonky at earthlink.net>> >wrote:> >> >> Mike,> >> You can link rudder to motor with about 12" of tube from West with > >> proper fittings on each end.> >> Art> >>> >> -----Original Message-----> >> >From: Mike Cheung <mikecheung at att.net>> >> >Sent: Jul 2, 2008 6:39 AM> >> >To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> >> >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sorry I meant the "new" Yamaha 8 or 9.9 hp> >> >> >> >> >> >David,> >> >> >> >Thanks for responding, but "my bad" ... I meant the "new" T8ELH or > >> >T9.9ELH outboards with the gearshift and throttle controls on the > >> >motor tiller (as opposed to the sailboat tiller). Apparently the > >> >UPP with sailboat tiller mounted controls was developed for a motor > >> >that's no longer available new and Stan is using either used motors > >> >with the controls on the sailboat tiller or a new Yamaha 8 hp motor > >> >(the T8ELH I presume) that has the controls for both the throttle > >> >and gearshift on the motor tiller. Stan doesn't relocate the > >> >controls with these newer motors. Apparently the old motor was the > >> >only one Stan had found where the remote cables came out the side of > >> >the motor housing rather than the front. With the cables coming> >> out> >> >the front there is apparently some issue with cable bending radius > >> >and binding.> >> >> >> >My Admiral and I got to use the UPP on Stan's test boat and liked > >> >it, but don't think the extra cost is really worth it in this case. > >> >Stan is> >> really> >> >his own worst competition here as his 7:1 manual system sounds very, > >> >very good. Anyway we're looking for feedback on the new T8ELH from > >> >Yamaha and the even newer T9.9ELH both of which have the gear shift > >> >right behind the throttle on the motor tiller. Not quite as good as > >> >having them on the sailboat tiller, but not bad if they're easy to > >> >reach from the port stern seat.> >> >> >> >Guess I don't know what the old motors weigh, the T8ELH comes in at > >> >right about 80 lbs. Manageable by one, easy for two (or one with > >> >some> >> mechanical> >> >advantage).> >> >> >> >What my Admiral and I will miss from the UPP package is the > >> >rudder/motor interconnect. That was great and if we can't get Stan > >> >to unbundle that> >> from> >> >a UPP package we'll have to work on engineering one ourselves.> >> >> >> >Mike Cheung> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >David Bradley wrote:> >> >>> >> >> Mike, I have the 9.9 with UPP and tiller-mounted control. I love it.> >> >> Can cruise at hull speed at about 2/3 throttle. Power when you > >> >> need it in a strong current, for maneuvering, etc. Relatively > >> >> quiet. It's heavy, so I don't look forward to the day I need to > >> >> take it off the boat...> >> >>> >> >> Dave> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 5:39 PM, Mike Cheung <mikecheung at att.net>> wrote:> >> >>>> >> >>> Anyone running one of the Yamaha 8 or 9.9 hp outboards with the> >> gearshift> >> >>> on> >> >>> the tiller? How do you like it?> >> >>> --> >> >>> View this message in context:> >> >>> http://www.nabble.com/Yamaha-8-or-9.9-hp--tp18228090p18228090.htm> >> >>> l Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.> >> >>>> >> >>> __________________________________________________> >> >>> To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list > >> >>> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > >> >>> __________________________________________________> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> --> >> >> David Bradley> >> >> +1.206.234.3977> >> >> dwbrad at gmail.com> >> >> __________________________________________________> >> >> To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list > >> >> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > >> >> __________________________________________________> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >--> >> >View this message in context:> >> http://www.nabble.com/Yamaha-8-or-9.9-hp--tp18228090p18235600.html> >> >Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.> >> >> >> >__________________________________________________> >> >To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go > >> >to> >> http://www.rhodes22.org/list> >> >__________________________________________________> >>> >> __________________________________________________> >> To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go > >> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > >> __________________________________________________> >>> >__________________________________________________> >To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go to > >http://www.rhodes22.org/list > >__________________________________________________> > __________________________________________________> To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go to> http://www.rhodes22.org/list> __________________________________________________> > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 4> Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 07:48:35 -0400> From: Joe Babb <joe.babb at comcast.net>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Genoa Furling Problems> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> Message-ID: <486CBC93.5000004 at comcast.net>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed> > Lee,> Yep, that's it. Should be long enough to go from masthead to stem plus > a little.> Joe> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 5> Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 11:00:54 -0400> From: "KUHN, LELAND" <LKUHN at cnmc.org>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Sorry I meant the "new" Yamaha 8 or 9.9> hp> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>> Message-ID: <BAEF334992594C47AD272D6B69E6C360D232D6 at EXCHVS02.cnmc.org>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"> > Mary Lou,> > Yes, you need to disconnect the motor tiller link to raise the motor.> It's no pain at all. Pull a pin a move the arm back over the rudder.> Everything stays attached. You can check it out on my boat--once you> try it, I'm convinced you'll buy it. I have no idea how much it costs> but it can't be much even with Stan's R&D expenses. It wouldn't be too> difficult to fabricate one but the gas prices from Rock Hall to Kent> Island Hardware would kill you.> > Lee> > > -----Original Message-----> From: Mary Lou Troy [mailto:mtroy at atlanticbb.net] > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 11:40 AM> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Sorry I meant the "new" Yamaha 8 or 9.9 hp> > Lee,> Do you have to disconnect the motor tiller link to raise the motor? > How much of a pain is it to do that? Do you have to store any of the > parts or do they all stay attached? We still don't have a lot of > experience with our Yamaha but so far we haven't been able to > maneuver the boat as well at slow speeds in tight situations as well > as we did with the old Honda. We've always just steered with the > rudder. I suspect it's more a matter of learning to coordinate the > power of the new motor with the rudder but the tiller to rudder > linkage may be the last resort.> > Mary Lou> 1991 R22 Fretless> Rock Hall, MD> > At 10:05 AM 7/2/2008, you wrote:> >Mike,> >> >"What my Admiral and I will miss from the UPP package is the> >rudder/motor interconnect."> >> >The tiller-mounted controls and motor-tiller link are two separate> >things. Check with Stan, but I think he gives you the inexpensive> >motor-tiller link without asking (ask anyway).> >> >I've used the tiller-mounted controls and they're wonderful, but the> >motor-tiller link is much more important. With all the crap (useful> >accessories) on the transom, it's difficult to steer the boat by> turning> >the motor alone, so without the link I assume you would set the motor> >straight and steer with the tiller alone. Steering with the tiller and> >motor together gives you a lot of maneuverability when docking.> >> >I consider it one of the best features of the Rhodes.> >> >Lee> >1986 Rhodes22 At Ease> >Kent Island, MD> >> >-----Original Message-----> >From: Mike Cheung [mailto:mikecheung at att.net]> >Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 7:40 AM> >To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sorry I meant the "new" Yamaha 8 or 9.9 hp> >> >> >David,> >> >Thanks for responding, but "my bad" ... I meant the "new" T8ELH or> >T9.9ELH> >outboards with the gearshift and throttle controls on the motor tiller> >(as> >opposed to the sailboat tiller). Apparently the UPP with sailboat> >tiller> >mounted controls was developed for a motor that's no longer available> >new> >and Stan is using either used motors with the controls on the sailboat> >tiller or a new Yamaha 8 hp motor (the T8ELH I presume) that has the> >controls for both the throttle and gearshift on the motor tiller. Stan> >doesn't relocate the controls with these newer motors. Apparently the> >old> >motor was the only one Stan had found where the remote cables came out> >the> >side of the motor housing rather than the front. With the cables> coming> >out> >the front there is apparently some issue with cable bending radius and> >binding.> >> >My Admiral and I got to use the UPP on Stan's test boat and liked it,> >but> >don't think the extra cost is really worth it in this case. Stan is> >really> >his own worst competition here as his 7:1 manual system sounds very,> >very> >good. Anyway we're looking for feedback on the new T8ELH from Yamaha> >and> >the even newer T9.9ELH both of which have the gear shift right behind> >the> >throttle on the motor tiller. Not quite as good as having them on the> >sailboat tiller, but not bad if they're easy to reach from the port> >stern> >seat.> >> >Guess I don't know what the old motors weigh, the T8ELH comes in at> >right> >about 80 lbs. Manageable by one, easy for two (or one with some> >mechanical> >advantage).> >> >What my Admiral and I will miss from the UPP package is the> rudder/motor> >interconnect. That was great and if we can't get Stan to unbundle that> >from> >a UPP package we'll have to work on engineering one ourselves.> >> >Mike Cheung> >> >> >> >> >David Bradley wrote:> > >> > > Mike, I have the 9.9 with UPP and tiller-mounted control. I love> it.> > > Can cruise at hull speed at about 2/3 throttle. Power when you need> > > it in a strong current, for maneuvering, etc. Relatively quiet.> It's> > > heavy, so I don't look forward to the day I need to take it off the> > > boat...> > >> > > Dave> > >> > >> > > On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 5:39 PM, Mike Cheung <mikecheung at att.net>> >wrote:> > >>> > >> Anyone running one of the Yamaha 8 or 9.9 hp outboards with the> >gearshift> > >> on> > >> the tiller? How do you like it?> > >> --> > >> View this message in context:> > >> http://www.nabble.com/Yamaha-8-or-9.9-hp--tp18228090p18228090.html> > >> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.> > >>> > >> __________________________________________________> > >> To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go> >to> > >> http://www.rhodes22.org/list> > >> __________________________________________________> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > > --> > > David Bradley> > > +1.206.234.3977> > > dwbrad at gmail.com> > > __________________________________________________> > > To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go> to> > > http://www.rhodes22.org/list> > > __________________________________________________> > >> > >> >> >--> >View this message in context:> >http://www.nabble.com/Yamaha-8-or-9.9-hp--tp18228090p18235600.html> >Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.> >> >> >Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any > >attachments, is for the sole use of the intended> >recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged > >information. 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Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. > If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message.> > > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 6> Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 11:12:27 -0400> From: Robert Skinner <robert at squirrelhaven.com>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Motor-tiller linkage> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>> Message-ID: <486CEC5B.1AEFA579 at squirrelhaven.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii> > Thank you, Art, for the description of the linkage parts.> > Perhaps I missed it -- has anyone posted a picture of such> a linksge? I have gotten the power-tiller rig, and the last> piece of the puzzle is building a link.> > /Robert> > "Arthur H. Czerwonky" wrote:> > > > Jack,> > Attached to motor and tiller side - attached at a point on each which is equidistant from the pivot points - 90 degree bimini deck mounts.> > Attached between - Approx 10-12" 7/8" OD SS tube with eye ends on each end.> > Simply match the eyes with the bimini mounts. I'd use quick disconnects for easy removal of the tube, freeing up non-linked motor motion (raising, etc.) Mount so that the screw for the bimini mounts is vertical and both rudder and motor can turn easily in sync. I don't think Stan would have this for sale - West (or Boater's World) should. Does that help?> > Art> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 7> Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 11:18:43 -0400> From: "KUHN, LELAND" <LKUHN at cnmc.org>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Yamaha 8 hp motor source?> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>> Message-ID: <BAEF334992594C47AD272D6B69E6C360D232DB at EXCHVS02.cnmc.org>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"> > My 9.9 Merc has electric and manual start. To access the fly wheel so> you can wrap a pull cord around it, all you need to do is remove the> cover. The latch is on the back of the motor, so be careful when you> climb outside the stern rail to reach it. Then you simply use a ratchet> set to remove the 8 bolts that secure the steel plate that houses the> flywheel. If the chop is more than 3 feet, you might want to tie> yourself to something like a lineman does on a utility pole.> > Don't forget to buy your flywheel pull cord. It doesn't come with your> motor.> > Lee> 1986 Rhodes22 At Ease> Kent Island, MD> > > > -----Original Message-----> From: bill davidge [mailto:wpdavidge at yahoo.com] > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 8:06 PM> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Yamaha 8 hp motor source?> > Mike> The Tohatsu 8 comes with Electric and Manual start so if the battery> is deed you don't have to row . BTW I'm not sure how hard it is to start> Manual Just push the button and it comes life.> I know what you are saying about the gear shift on the Yamaha it is> slick. One thing I have found on the Rhodes page was a Power Tiller> that you may want to look at . It can be mounted on your Tiller and it> hooks up to just about any Out Board Engine. . > powertiller.net> > Bill D Temperance Mi.> > > > ----- Original Message ----> From: Mike Cheung <mikecheung at att.net>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> Sent: Wednesday, July 2, 2008 3:36:07 PM> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Yamaha 8 hp motor source?> > > Bill,> > Actually I was trying to get Bill McCready's attention - apparently he> recently got or is getting a Yamaha 8. But, thanks for the encouraging> report on 8 hp being "enough". We do make it to Toledo now and again;> my> Admiral's sister lives in Sylvania, NW of Toledo, darn near in Michigan> actually. I'll be sure to get in touch next time we're headed that way.> I> also looked at the Tohatsu 8 and 9.9 outboards. They are quite a bit> less> expensive even with the electric start, but the set up on the Yamaha 8> hp is> a strong selling point. Yamaha has the gearshift located right behind> the> twist grip throttle on the tiller and Stan says the tiller is pretty> long so> the controls fall easily to hand. I know what you mean about electric> start, but the Admiral really doesn't like pull start outboards. And I> do> want her to be able to start it without me, just in case.> > Mike C.> > > > bill davidge wrote:> > > > Mike> > Not sure if I'm the Bill you are talking to ? But here goes.> > > > I have a Tohatsu 8hp . No problem with it on Lake Erie were, I> sail 3> > or 4 times a wk.. I have been out in heavy seas ( 4 and 5 ft waves and> > wind guesting to 25 kt ). what else can I say .> > I looked at the Yamaha T 8 and T 9 There were two things that> turned Me> > off of the T8 and T 9 .The price and they only come with Electric> start > > To me that was a big problem .What are you going to do when you are 4> or> > 5 miles out, in heavy seas high winds and your battery is shot ?> > Last yr I paid 1705 that included Tax and Shipping .Ck out> > internetoutboards.com..> > > > Mike if you and your Admiral are ever going to be in the Toledo Oh> area> > .Let me know and we can get together for a sail.> > > > Bill Davidge > > > > -- > View this message in context:> http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A-Rhodes22-list-Digest%2C-Vol-1541%2C-Issue-1-> tp18228604p18245150.html> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.> > __________________________________________________> To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go to> http://www.rhodes22.org/list> __________________________________________________> > > > > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended > recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. > If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message.> > > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 8> Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 08:39:57 -0700 (PDT)> From: Mike Cheung <mikecheung at att.net>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Yamaha 8 hp motor source?> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> Message-ID: <18260951.post at talk.nabble.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii> > > Caesar,> > I have a question about how you handled your motor purchase. Did you have> it delivered to GBI directly? If so, who did you order it from?> > I'm looking hard at the Yamaha T8, but the darn things are both expensive,> somewhat scarce, and the dealers apparently aren't supposed to ship them. > This makes getting one to Stan difficult. > > I may yet end up with a Tohatsu. > > Mike C.> > > > Caesarsailor wrote:> > > > Mike,> > I too was in the market for an outboard motor. I decided on a 9.9 Tohatsu> > with the understanding that Tahatsu manufacture motors for most of these> > other name brands.> > The 8hp and the 9.9 hp are basically the same weight, so I went for the> > greater hp. After placing my order, I was told that they were out of> > stock for the moment, and that I could have a Nissan 9.9 for the same> > price as the Tohatsu, and that the engines are the same with different> > name plates. My Nissan has both electric start and the traditional pull> > start, which covers you should your battery die at an inconvenient time.> > > > I keep my motor pointed straight and steer with my tiller, but I would> > like to have a linkage to steer with both motor and tiller. As has been> > said, it give even better maneuverability.> > Good motor hunting.> > Caesar> > > > -- > View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A-Rhodes22-list-Digest%2C-Vol-1541%2C-Issue-1-tp18228604p18260951.html> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.> > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 9> Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 11:52:56 -0400> From: <benonvelvetelvis at theskinnyonbenny.com>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] battery> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> Message-ID: <13704.1215100376 at theskinnyonbenny.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"> > > Does anyone know what the rechargeable batter is that runs the fan> mounted on the bow deck? I don't know if GB has tried several fans> there -- hopefully not. It's standard issue from the late 90s.> I pulled the battery out to replace it, then immediately dropped it> overboard.> Thanks,> Ben> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 10> Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 11:55:23 -0400> From: <benonvelvetelvis at theskinnyonbenny.com>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] music link> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> Message-ID: <15332.1215100523 at theskinnyonbenny.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"> > > In honor of my former favorite internet radio station (kslm), here's a> r&b mix that I think most of you will enjoy.> http://cigar.muxtape.com/> Ben> R22 Velvet Elvis> > > ------------------------------> > _______________________________________________> Rhodes22-list mailing list> Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list> > > End of Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 1544, Issue 1> **********************************************
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