[Rhodes22-list] Open letter to the guys at the bar

[Mary Lou Troy]

elle,
You've asked the right questions.

To offer my own blunt opinion, I think the name calling and the 
bullying are stupid playground behaviors and add nothing to the list. 
There is nothing wrong with political discussion but much of what 
I've seen here does not sound like discussion to me. It sounds like 
belittling people for their beliefs. There is a difference between 
disagreeing with someone and calling them an ugly name.

As someone who has been a member of this list and its predecessor 
since 1998, I am sad to say I try not to read the postings from 
several of the members. I might like them in a bar but in writing 
their words do not seem like harmless banter. To me their words sound 
vicious and I can only imagine what it must sound like to the poor 
soul who wanders in here.

Mary Lou
1991 R22   Fretless
Rock Hall, MD




At 09:19 PM 7/22/2008, you wrote:
> > It's there list & they should be able to say anything
> > they want.
>
>
>Absolutely....no argument there. Go off on any tangent...It's not 
>the what...it's the how.....
>
>But is there a reason that there has to be name-calling, slurs, and bullying?
>
>That just distracts from the topic at hand..whatever it is, sailing 
>related or not.....
>
>What does name-calling and bullying add to the list? How does that 
>enhance the discussion of the topic?
>
>I think it just stops the discussion in its tracks...or causes John 
>to have to step in & put everyone back in their corners.
>
>IMHO
>
>
>elle
>
>
>
>We can't change the angle of the wind....but we can adjust our sails.
>
>  1992 Rhodes 22   Recyc '06  "WaterMusic"   (Lady in Red)
>
>
>--- On Tue, 7/22/08, Rik Sandberg <sanderico1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > From: Rik Sandberg <sanderico1 at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Open letter to the guys at the bar
> > To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Date: Tuesday, July 22, 2008, 9:08 PM
> > JB,
> >
> > I don't guess I could say it any better than that!
> >
> > Rik
> >
> > Ayn Rand was a prophet - - it isn't my fault
> >
> >
> >
> > Jb wrote:
> > > I don't see this as a  rhodes 22 owners list.
> > >  It's a list made by some friends that have an
> > interest in Rhodes 22
> > > sailboats.
> > > 10, maybe 20 people. It's there list & they
> > should be able to say anything
> > > they want.
> > > There may be 268 signed up but they don't
> > participate for whatever reason,
> > > Are they gonna participate in the "poll",
> > .... then change the list they
> > > don't use?
> > >
> > > Jb
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "elle" <watermusic38 at yahoo.com>
> > > To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List"
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 5:05 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Open letter to the guys
> > at the bar
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> I can't necessarily disagree w/some of the
> > comments re: the tone of the
> > >> list.
> > >>
> > >> The tone of some political posts can be downright
> > bullying.....and the
> > >> name-calling....and that is discomforting, even if
> > the topic and the
> > >> discussion may be worthy of a read.....it's a
> > huge turnoff for me
> > >> personally, and obviously for newbies. Bullies are
> > turnoffs.
> > >>
> > >> Please reread your posts tone it down before
> > hitting send.  Your points
> > >> are better made with fluency and reasoning, not
> > force.
> > >>
> > >> You guys are a unique bunch with a huge spectrum
> > of occupations &
> > >> educational backgrounds, giving unique
> > perspectives to the politics
> > >> swirling around us.
> > >>
> > >> The discussions do bring out points that I find
> > interesting ...and often
> > >> you guys find stuff that is not in the news....but
> >  no one is going to
> > >> change anyone else's minds about the
> > candidates. But these are not
> > >> discussions any more...they  are diatribes &
> > anyone who does not agree is
> > >> a &%$#(*&^)#.
> > >>
> > >> So let's stop the bullying, namecalling, and
> > label the posts as political
> > >> to be deleted at will.. ...and maybe we can get
> > some fresh insights and
> > >> new buds to hoist one with.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> elle
> > >>
> > >> We can't change the angle of the wind....but
> > we can adjust our sails.
> > >>
> > >> 1992 Rhodes 22   Recyc '06
> > "WaterMusic"   (Lady in Red)
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
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