[Rhodes22-list] Brad, Elle, Slim, et al... (Big Al Delete)(Political references)(Save America Campaign)
Herb Parsons
hparsons at parsonsys.com
Fri Jun 6 12:31:54 EDT 2008
I think the the notion that the government should provide a "level
playing field" is valid, the problem comes in the definition of what is
a "level playing field".
Sorry, but if MY expectation of a level playing field is that my childre
be given the same financial opportunities as the children of Bill Gates,
then my expectations are skewed. Bill's money is his to do with as he
pleases.
Obviously, that's an extreme example, but that's part of the problem.
Everyone has different notions of what constitutes a "level playing field".
Rik Sandberg wrote:
> John,
>
> "and *perhaps false hope*, is that government is supposed to maintain a level playing field for all citizens in their "pursuit" of happiness."
>
> All one has to do is look at the situation we are in now, (the last 5 years) to realize that your dream of a level playing field via gov't control is just exactly that ... a dream and not a very good one at that.
>
> Money flows to where it gets treated the best. When prices are artificially high or low that flow can become a flood. Had the gov't stayed out of the banking business for example and let interest rates assume their own natural level, we wouldn't be seeing the collapse of a housing bubble now. Instead we have mega-wealthy bankers who are not held responsible for their own foolishness, a currency that is fast becoming useless and 4 dollar gas, just to name a few. Was that the help ... the level playing field you were hoping for? That's what your gov'ts meddling is doing for you.
>
> Rik
>
>
> In a centrally planned economy people get what they deserve, but rarely what they really want. Mistakes tend to be enormous...and petty. Results vary, but experiments with central planning always end in pathetic messes.....Bill Bonner
>
>
>
> john Belanger wrote:
>
>> brad
>> just one question:
>> how can you have so much confidence in the private sector, and yet describe them this way:
>> "I think most of the electorate is ignorant of history, economics, and politics, but that's just the mean-spirited, selfish, and reality-based side of me coming out."
>> my belief, and perhaps false hope, is that government is supposed to maintain a level playing field for all citizens in their "pursuit" of happiness.
>> someone once complained about people who denigrated religious faith in the "new age of reason" as unnecessary. to which the response was, you don't want to be facing the devil without the shield of religious faith between you and him. thats what i expect of my government....a shield to defend me from excesses of the private sector.
>>
>>
>>
>> s/v 1969 venture 21
>>
>>
>> --- On Thu, 6/5/08, Brad Haslett <flybrad at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> From: Brad Haslett <flybrad at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Brad, Elle, Slim, et al... (Big Al Delete)(Political references)(Save America Campaign)
>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Date: Thursday, June 5, 2008, 10:55 PM
>>> Ed,
>>>
>>>
>>> "I am sorry that you bought into the fellow travelers
>>> idea that compulsory
>>> purchase contracts by a government agency is the same as
>>> collective
>>> bargaining. In the compulsory contracts for
>>> pharmaceuticals there just
>>> might be unintended consequences."
>>>
>>> Where did you ever get that idea? That is the antithesis
>>> of my thought
>>> process. I believe there are damn few things that the
>>> government can do
>>> better than the private sector. We're going to get
>>> some form of "national"
>>> healthcare regardless of which party takes power. The
>>> country is in the
>>> mood. I think most of the electorate is ignorant of
>>> history, economics,
>>> and politics, but that's just the mean-spirited,
>>> selfish, and reality-based
>>> side of me coming out.
>>>
>>> BTW, I was the guest of a government Kuhuna last week
>>> (sent his driver for
>>> us in a brand-new Audi) for tea (actually I drank free
>>> communist beer).
>>> Life is good if you're in control. The difference is,
>>> in this country, I
>>> can complain about the quality of the government provided
>>> "free" beer.
>>>
>>> We have the farthest left candidate nominated for President
>>> in the history
>>> of the nation. He's being propped-up by the MSM which
>>> is pretty far left
>>> themselves. I hope everyone has their eyes open. I have
>>> my exit plan. Do
>>> you?
>>>
>>> Brad
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 7:24 AM, Tootle
>>> <ekroposki at charter.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Brad:
>>>>
>>>> Keep the political references coming. Your last post
>>>>
>>>>
>>> that had the
>>>
>>>
>>>> reference
>>>> to:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> http://gregransom.com/prestopundit/2008/06/obama-tell-us-what-a-sacrifice.html
>>>
>>>
>>>> lead to a very good analysis:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NDkyZTNiZDdkMTNiNzViZTYxNDU0MTY4MzMzMzNmZDU=
>>>
>>>
>>>> I am sorry that you bought into the fellow travelers
>>>>
>>>>
>>> idea that compulsory
>>>
>>>
>>>> purchase contracts by a government agency is the same
>>>>
>>>>
>>> as collective
>>>
>>>
>>>> bargaining. In the compulsory contracts for
>>>>
>>>>
>>> pharmaceuticals there just
>>>
>>>
>>>> might be unintended consequences. Small unique drug
>>>>
>>>>
>>> makers may be forced
>>>
>>>
>>>> not to participate resulting in their demise because
>>>>
>>>>
>>> of the very
>>>
>>>
>>>> specialized
>>>> uses of their products. When complying with request
>>>>
>>>>
>>> for lower costs, jobs
>>>
>>>
>>>> will be shipped overseas. One of the first cost
>>>>
>>>>
>>> cutting techniques of just
>>>
>>>
>>>> looking at the bottom line and not the future is
>>>>
>>>>
>>> research, which will be
>>>
>>>
>>>> left to foreign concerns.
>>>>
>>>> In contrast, you have benefitted from collective
>>>>
>>>>
>>> bargaining where first, if
>>>
>>>
>>>> you did not like the contract, you had freedom to work
>>>>
>>>>
>>> elsewhere.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Additionally, FEDX concluded that the skill level of
>>>>
>>>>
>>> its employees was very
>>>
>>>
>>>> important to the success of its business model.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Additionally, detailed
>>>
>>>
>>>> analysis of the contracts show that the company can
>>>>
>>>>
>>> still make a ROI that
>>>
>>>
>>>> keeps it in business.
>>>>
>>>> Mixing the two concepts is just the Marxist way of
>>>>
>>>>
>>> inching away at
>>>
>>>
>>>> individual freedoms.
>>>>
>>>> Since you have unique research resources, where is a
>>>>
>>>>
>>> good article that
>>>
>>>
>>>> clearly demonstrates Obama's socialist (for those
>>>>
>>>>
>>> not willing to accept
>>>
>>>
>>>> that
>>>> word, Marxist) economic ideology as having its
>>>>
>>>>
>>> historical roots in the
>>>
>>>
>>>> concepts and beliefs of W.E.B. Dubois.
>>>>
>>>> Hopefully, Elle has been reading the articles to the
>>>>
>>>>
>>> point of
>>>
>>>
>>>> comprehension.
>>>>
>>>> Ed K
>>>> Greenville, SC, USA
>>>> attachment:
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>>>>
>>>>
>>> today.jpg
>>>
>>>
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