[Rhodes22-list] Chosing Genoa by jimjim02

Peter Thorn pthorn at nc.rr.com
Wed Jun 18 11:48:20 EDT 2008


http://www.tillerwatch.com/

Rummy, try one of these.  I got mine last week and the workmanship is so
gorgeous it's like fine art.



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[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Robert Skinner
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 11:22 AM
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Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Chosing Genoa by jimjim02

And I guess that an autopilot would be cheating, Rummy?
How about a wind vane?  Bungee on the main sheet?

/Robert

R22RumRunner at aol.com wrote:
> 
> Slim,
> You have to understand that going below, mixing a drink and getting back
to
> the helm prior to broaching is a real challenge. It's probably one of the
few
> that I have yet to conquer with the Rhodes22.
> 
> Rummy
> 
> 
> In a message dated 6/18/2008 2:07:15 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> stevenalm at gmail.com writes:
> 
> John,  you're missing the point.  A fresh drink should be served as  a
> bartender would serve it.  Fresh ice, rum and mix--or  whatever.
> 
> Rummy, my friend, learn to heave to.  It's the best way  to briefly take a
> little break and do what needs to be done.  Are you  in a hurry or
> something?  It's easier than fussing with locking the  tiller down and
> trimming the sails perfectly so everything is balanced and  you can go
> below.  Although I admit that's a worthy  challenge.
> 
> Slim
> 
> On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 12:04 PM, KUHN, LELAND  <LKUHN at cnmc.org> wrote:
> 
> >
> > "I learn something new every  time I go out."  If an experienced sailor
> > feels that way, it  convinces me that I will never get bored of sailing.
> > Perfect total  boat adjustment for all conditions would be impossible to
> > experience,  much less learn and remember.  It's got to be one of the
> > easiest  sports to learn and the absolute hardest to master.
> >
> > I took out  a calculator and started doing the math.
> >
> > If you conservatively  should make an adjustment for every 10 degree
> > directional change and  every knot of wind change; and then factor in
> > different combinations  of current, chop, headsail, mainsail,
> > centerboard, tiller, traveler,  boom height, alcohol consumption, mast
> > rake, stay tention, and all  standing/running rigging; then you would
> > need to learn and remember  over 99,999,999.99 adjustments.  I don't
know
> > how much more  because my calculator maxed out.  I'm just now
discovering
> > the  impact of adjusting the loose foot of the main.
> >
> > Now if I only  had a boom vang.
> >
> > Lee
> > 1986 Rhodes22  At  Ease
> > Kent Island, MD
> >
> > -----Original  Message-----
> > From: R22RumRunner at aol.com  [mailto:R22RumRunner at aol.com]
> > Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 7:31  PM
> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list]  Chosing Genoa by jimjim02
> >
> > Bill,
> > Learning the Rhodes22  is a wonderful experience. Forget almost
> > everything
> > you ever  knew about sailing and try sailing her with the equipment that
> >  Stan
> > puts on her. The sails have so many adjustments that it will  take
> > several years
> > until you reach a comfort level where you  will want to change sails
> > around.
> > The  175 is a great  sail with many adjustments. I learn something new
> > every
> > time I  go  out. Just when I think I have it mastered, something comes
up
> >  and
> > reminds me  that I still have a lot to learn. The hardest  thing for me
> > is to go
> > below and  mix a drink while still  under full sails single handing. I'm
> > fast,
> > but not quite   fast enough.
> >
> > Rummy :)
> >
> >
> > In a message  dated 6/16/2008 3:18:55 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> >  wpdavidge at gmail.com writes:
> >
> > ED
> >
> > I'm not sure  about JIm Or Jhon But I do like to change  sails .That 's
> >  one
> > of the reason I have  the Rhodes ..I'm just looking  for  the Sail that
> > woks
> > Best for me .
> > By the way You are  right  when you tell people to ck with Rummy. His
> >  instructions  are right on  but not everyone can Sail at the same
level
> > that
> > He can ,or at least I  can't ,,Yet !
> >  Ed don't discount Your advise. It's also right on just  a little  blunt
> > at
> > times .
> >
> >
> > Thanks    Bill  Davidge
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at  7:13 PM, Tootle  <ekroposki at charter.net> wrote:
> >
> >  >
> > > Jim:
> > >
> > >  I said, "Ask Captain  Rummy for his detailed instructions and
> > comments."
> >  >
> > > See, he gave you the best advice  yet.
> >  >
> > >
> > > R22RumRunner wrote:
> > > >
> >  > >  Jim,
> > > > Forget about changing sails. Order the  boat with the 175  genoa and
> > learn
> > > > how
> >  > > to adjust the sail(s) for the  conditions. Screwing around  with
> > multiple
> > > > sails is a waste of  precious  sailing and drinking time.
> > > >
> > > > Rummy
> >  >  >
> > > > If you were a racer you would not even be  asking these  questions.
> > So
> > > > follow Rummy's  advice.  Get the most  versitile sail and go
> >  sailing...
> > > >
> > > > Ed K
> > > >   Greenville, SC, USA
> > > > Addendum:  "A chicken crossing the  road  is poultry in motion."
> > > >
> > > > In a  message dated 6/14/2008  7:25:12 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> > >  > jamesldickson at aol.com  writes:
> > > >
> > >  >
> > > > HI  Ed,
> > > >  Thanks for the  reply -
> > > >
> > > > Mary Lou's information was   very helpful  as well - Thanks. I'm
> > buying the
> > > >  boat through  Stan - 1991 recycled- should  be available at the  of
> > the
> > > >  month.
> > > > The furler  that is currently on the boat  is the GBI  Factory
> > Version  and
> > > I
> > > > won't be looking to change Genoa   sizes  often.
> > > >
> > > > But because I sail on a  lake with  summer light winds I requested
a
> > Genoa
> >  > > 150. The 170 is just  too big for the lake winds I sail on -  it
> > would be
> > > > reefed  in more than 75% of the  time. So it needs to be made
> > special
> > >  order
> >  > > which won't be ready by the time I'm scheduled to go down   to
pick
> > up the
> > > > boat.
> > > >
> >  > > Stan is  going to give me an old 170 to take home  until  the 150
can
> > be
> > >  > shipped to me. Which means I  need to replace the  Genoa's.
Although
> > I
> > >  been
> > > > sailing since I was a kid. I have had the   same  ODay Javelin that
> > has
> > > been
> > > >  in
> > > > our  family since 74. I have never sailed   anything larger than 19'
> > and
> > > > nothing with anytype of  Furler. Just nervous  about  changing.
> > > >
> >  > > I've sent an email to Stan to see if it's  too late to   change to
> > the CDI
> > > > version - this would  actually  make it easier to change. I  might
> > even  see
> > > > if
> > > >  I can purchase the old 170  from Stan for times when we  take the
> > boat
> > > >  camping
> > > > and to the NJ Shore where there will be  more  wind and  the 170
> > would make
> > > > more  sense.
> > >  >
> > > > But just in case I can't get  the CDI  furler on it I  want to find
> > out how
> > >  > difficult it will be to make a one  time  replacement of the  old
170
> > to my
> > > > new
> > > > 150.  Again  with the understanding that  I'm by no means anytype of
> >
> >  master
> > > > sailor or great with do it yourself   repairs.
> > >  >
> > > > Thanks in advance for your  advice and help.
> > >  >
> > > > Jim
> > >  > New  rhodes owner
> > > >  Quakertown PA
> > >  >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >   >
> > > >
> > > > Tootle wrote:
> > >  >>
> > > >>  JimJim02
> > > >>
> >  > >> You said that you were purchasing a  Rhodes  22.   Is this from
> > General
> > > >> Boats?
> > >   >>
> > > >> As to changing  the foresale, it depends  as  Mary Lou said which
> > furler
> > > >> you
> >  > >>  have.   That is if the boat has a furler.   If you are
purchasing
> > that
> > > >> 1973
> >  > >> that was posted for  sale, it may be a hank on.
> >  > >>
> > > >>  Mary Lou  pointed out the GBI  factory design, CDI, and SnapFurl.
> > There
> > >  >>  are
> > > >> even more brands.  So if you are getting  a  boat thru GBI,  call
> > and ask
> > > >> what  is on the boat  now.  Stan ususally does not  change  the
> > furler
> > > >>  unless
> > > >> it  is broken.  So if the boat has an  older  CDI, that is what
you
> > will
> > > >> get.
> > > >>
> >  >  >> Harkin makes one of the  best system and  charges  accordingly.
It
> >
> > allows
> > >  >> changing  foresales on the  run.  It allows hoisting a  second
sail
> > while
> > > >>  using  the  first.  It even allow using two sails at the same
time,
> >  as
> > >  in
> > > >> wing on wing.
> > >  >>
> > >  >> So understand, more information is   required to answer your
> > question.
> > > >> Suggest you  get a three ring binder  to keep  notes of your
> >  questions,
> > > >> answers and other   information.   It will get filled up quickly.
> > >   >>
> > > >> Ed K
> > > >> Greenville,  SC,   USA
> > > >> Addendum:  "boltrope - strong  rope stitched to edges  of a  sail"
> > > >>
> >  > >
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