[Rhodes22-list] Chosing Genoa by jimjim02
Peter Thorn
pthorn at nc.rr.com
Wed Jun 18 12:49:00 EDT 2008
Lee,
I haven't seen one of Stan's, but the Tiller Watch is so elegant and simple
Stan could have designed it.
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[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of KUHN, LELAND
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 12:26 PM
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PT,
Interesting. Aside from being far less expensive, have you compared
this to Stan's locking tiller extender for advantages and disadvantages?
Most of my sailing is hands-free and through overuse and abuse my
extender isn't sticking like it once did.
Thanks!
Lee
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From: Peter Thorn [mailto:pthorn at nc.rr.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 11:48 AM
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http://www.tillerwatch.com/
Rummy, try one of these. I got mine last week and the workmanship is so
gorgeous it's like fine art.
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[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Robert Skinner
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 11:22 AM
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Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Chosing Genoa by jimjim02
And I guess that an autopilot would be cheating, Rummy?
How about a wind vane? Bungee on the main sheet?
/Robert
R22RumRunner at aol.com wrote:
>
> Slim,
> You have to understand that going below, mixing a drink and getting
back
to
> the helm prior to broaching is a real challenge. It's probably one of
the
few
> that I have yet to conquer with the Rhodes22.
>
> Rummy
>
>
> In a message dated 6/18/2008 2:07:15 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> stevenalm at gmail.com writes:
>
> John, you're missing the point. A fresh drink should be served as a
> bartender would serve it. Fresh ice, rum and mix--or whatever.
>
> Rummy, my friend, learn to heave to. It's the best way to briefly
take a
> little break and do what needs to be done. Are you in a hurry or
> something? It's easier than fussing with locking the tiller down and
> trimming the sails perfectly so everything is balanced and you can go
> below. Although I admit that's a worthy challenge.
>
> Slim
>
> On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 12:04 PM, KUHN, LELAND <LKUHN at cnmc.org>
wrote:
>
> >
> > "I learn something new every time I go out." If an experienced
sailor
> > feels that way, it convinces me that I will never get bored of
sailing.
> > Perfect total boat adjustment for all conditions would be
impossible to
> > experience, much less learn and remember. It's got to be one of
the
> > easiest sports to learn and the absolute hardest to master.
> >
> > I took out a calculator and started doing the math.
> >
> > If you conservatively should make an adjustment for every 10 degree
> > directional change and every knot of wind change; and then factor
in
> > different combinations of current, chop, headsail, mainsail,
> > centerboard, tiller, traveler, boom height, alcohol consumption,
mast
> > rake, stay tention, and all standing/running rigging; then you
would
> > need to learn and remember over 99,999,999.99 adjustments. I don't
know
> > how much more because my calculator maxed out. I'm just now
discovering
> > the impact of adjusting the loose foot of the main.
> >
> > Now if I only had a boom vang.
> >
> > Lee
> > 1986 Rhodes22 At Ease
> > Kent Island, MD
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: R22RumRunner at aol.com [mailto:R22RumRunner at aol.com]
> > Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 7:31 PM
> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Chosing Genoa by jimjim02
> >
> > Bill,
> > Learning the Rhodes22 is a wonderful experience. Forget almost
> > everything
> > you ever knew about sailing and try sailing her with the equipment
that
> > Stan
> > puts on her. The sails have so many adjustments that it will take
> > several years
> > until you reach a comfort level where you will want to change sails
> > around.
> > The 175 is a great sail with many adjustments. I learn something
new
> > every
> > time I go out. Just when I think I have it mastered, something
comes
up
> > and
> > reminds me that I still have a lot to learn. The hardest thing for
me
> > is to go
> > below and mix a drink while still under full sails single handing.
I'm
> > fast,
> > but not quite fast enough.
> >
> > Rummy :)
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 6/16/2008 3:18:55 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> > wpdavidge at gmail.com writes:
> >
> > ED
> >
> > I'm not sure about JIm Or Jhon But I do like to change sails .That
's
> > one
> > of the reason I have the Rhodes ..I'm just looking for the Sail
that
> > woks
> > Best for me .
> > By the way You are right when you tell people to ck with Rummy.
His
> > instructions are right on but not everyone can Sail at the same
level
> > that
> > He can ,or at least I can't ,,Yet !
> > Ed don't discount Your advise. It's also right on just a little
blunt
> > at
> > times .
> >
> >
> > Thanks Bill Davidge
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Tootle <ekroposki at charter.net>
wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Jim:
> > >
> > > I said, "Ask Captain Rummy for his detailed instructions and
> > comments."
> > >
> > > See, he gave you the best advice yet.
> > >
> > >
> > > R22RumRunner wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Jim,
> > > > Forget about changing sails. Order the boat with the 175 genoa
and
> > learn
> > > > how
> > > > to adjust the sail(s) for the conditions. Screwing around
with
> > multiple
> > > > sails is a waste of precious sailing and drinking time.
> > > >
> > > > Rummy
> > > >
> > > > If you were a racer you would not even be asking these
questions.
> > So
> > > > follow Rummy's advice. Get the most versitile sail and go
> > sailing...
> > > >
> > > > Ed K
> > > > Greenville, SC, USA
> > > > Addendum: "A chicken crossing the road is poultry in motion."
> > > >
> > > > In a message dated 6/14/2008 7:25:12 A.M. Eastern Daylight
Time,
> > > > jamesldickson at aol.com writes:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > HI Ed,
> > > > Thanks for the reply -
> > > >
> > > > Mary Lou's information was very helpful as well - Thanks. I'm
> > buying the
> > > > boat through Stan - 1991 recycled- should be available at the
of
> > the
> > > > month.
> > > > The furler that is currently on the boat is the GBI Factory
> > Version and
> > > I
> > > > won't be looking to change Genoa sizes often.
> > > >
> > > > But because I sail on a lake with summer light winds I
requested
a
> > Genoa
> > > > 150. The 170 is just too big for the lake winds I sail on -
it
> > would be
> > > > reefed in more than 75% of the time. So it needs to be made
> > special
> > > order
> > > > which won't be ready by the time I'm scheduled to go down to
pick
> > up the
> > > > boat.
> > > >
> > > > Stan is going to give me an old 170 to take home until the
150
can
> > be
> > > > shipped to me. Which means I need to replace the Genoa's.
Although
> > I
> > > been
> > > > sailing since I was a kid. I have had the same ODay Javelin
that
> > has
> > > been
> > > > in
> > > > our family since 74. I have never sailed anything larger than
19'
> > and
> > > > nothing with anytype of Furler. Just nervous about changing.
> > > >
> > > > I've sent an email to Stan to see if it's too late to change
to
> > the CDI
> > > > version - this would actually make it easier to change. I
might
> > even see
> > > > if
> > > > I can purchase the old 170 from Stan for times when we take
the
> > boat
> > > > camping
> > > > and to the NJ Shore where there will be more wind and the 170
> > would make
> > > > more sense.
> > > >
> > > > But just in case I can't get the CDI furler on it I want to
find
> > out how
> > > > difficult it will be to make a one time replacement of the
old
170
> > to my
> > > > new
> > > > 150. Again with the understanding that I'm by no means
anytype of
> >
> > master
> > > > sailor or great with do it yourself repairs.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance for your advice and help.
> > > >
> > > > Jim
> > > > New rhodes owner
> > > > Quakertown PA
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Tootle wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> JimJim02
> > > >>
> > > >> You said that you were purchasing a Rhodes 22. Is this
from
> > General
> > > >> Boats?
> > > >>
> > > >> As to changing the foresale, it depends as Mary Lou said
which
> > furler
> > > >> you
> > > >> have. That is if the boat has a furler. If you are
purchasing
> > that
> > > >> 1973
> > > >> that was posted for sale, it may be a hank on.
> > > >>
> > > >> Mary Lou pointed out the GBI factory design, CDI, and
SnapFurl.
> > There
> > > >> are
> > > >> even more brands. So if you are getting a boat thru GBI,
call
> > and ask
> > > >> what is on the boat now. Stan ususally does not change the
> > furler
> > > >> unless
> > > >> it is broken. So if the boat has an older CDI, that is what
you
> > will
> > > >> get.
> > > >>
> > > >> Harkin makes one of the best system and charges
accordingly.
It
> >
> > allows
> > > >> changing foresales on the run. It allows hoisting a second
sail
> > while
> > > >> using the first. It even allow using two sails at the same
time,
> > as
> > > in
> > > >> wing on wing.
> > > >>
> > > >> So understand, more information is required to answer your
> > question.
> > > >> Suggest you get a three ring binder to keep notes of your
> > questions,
> > > >> answers and other information. It will get filled up
quickly.
> > > >>
> > > >> Ed K
> > > >> Greenville, SC, USA
> > > >> Addendum: "boltrope - strong rope stitched to edges of a
sail"
> > > >>
> > > >
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