[Rhodes22-list] Chosing Genoa by jimjim02

[Rick Lange]

Rummy,
Get an autohelm.  You can mix your drink, drink your drink
and fall asleep without broaching.  
Unless the wind changes, a
problem solved with a remote control for your autohelm.  That way, you can
change course while mixing your second drink, third drink, or lying drunk
on the cabin floor.
Rick
> Slim, 
> You have to
understand that going below, mixing a drink and getting back 
> to

> the helm prior to broaching is a real challenge. It's probably
one of the 
> few 
> that I have yet to conquer with the
Rhodes22. 
> 
> Rummy 
> 
> 
> In
a message dated 6/18/2008 2:07:15 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
>
stevenalm at gmail.com writes: 
> 
> John, you're missing the
point. A fresh drink should be served as a 
> bartender would
serve it. Fresh ice, rum and mix--or whatever. 
> 
>
Rummy, my friend, learn to heave to. It's the best way to briefly take a

> little break and do what needs to be done. Are you in a hurry
or 
> something? It's easier than fussing with locking the tiller
down and 
> trimming the sails perfectly so everything is balanced
and you can go 
> below. Although I admit that's a worthy
challenge. 
> 
> Slim 
> 
> On Tue, Jun
17, 2008 at 12:04 PM, KUHN, LELAND <LKUHN at cnmc.org> wrote: 
> 
>> 
>> "I learn something new every
time I go out." If an experienced sailor 
>> feels that
way, it convinces me that I will never get bored of sailing. 
>> Perfect total boat adjustment for all conditions would be
impossible to 
>> experience, much less learn and remember.
It's got to be one of the 
>> easiest sports to learn and the
absolute hardest to master. 
>> 
>> I took out a
calculator and started doing the math. 
>> 
>> If
you conservatively should make an adjustment for every 10 degree 
>> directional change and every knot of wind change; and then
factor in 
>> different combinations of current, chop,
headsail, mainsail, 
>> centerboard, tiller, traveler, boom
height, alcohol consumption, mast 
>> rake, stay tention, and
all standing/running rigging; then you would 
>> need to learn
and remember over 99,999,999.99 adjustments. I don't 
>> know

>> how much more because my calculator maxed out. I'm just now

>> discovering 
>> the impact of adjusting the
loose foot of the main. 
>> 
>> Now if I only had a
boom vang. 
>> 
>> Lee 
>> 1986 Rhodes22
At Ease 
>> Kent Island, MD 
>> 
>>
-----Original Message----- 
>> 
From: R22RumRunner at aol.com
[mailto:R22RumRunner at aol.com] 
>> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008
7:31 PM 
>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org 
>>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Chosing Genoa by jimjim02 
>> 
>> Bill, 
>> Learning the Rhodes22 is a wonderful
experience. Forget almost 
>> everything 
>> you
ever knew about sailing and try sailing her with the equipment that 
>> Stan 
>> puts on her. The sails have so many
adjustments that it will take 
>> several years 
>>
until you reach a comfort level where you will want to change sails 
>> around. 
>> The 175 is a great sail with many
adjustments. I learn something new 
>> every 
>>
time I go out. Just when I think I have it mastered, something comes 
>> up 
>> and 
>> reminds me that I still
have a lot to learn. The hardest thing for me 
>> is to go 
>> below and mix a drink while still under full sails single
handing. I'm 
>> fast, 
>> but not quite fast
enough. 
>> 
>> Rummy :) 
>> 
>> 
>> In a message dated 6/16/2008 3:18:55 P.M.
Eastern Daylight Time, 
>> wpdavidge at gmail.com writes: 
>> 
>> ED 
>> 
>> I'm not sure
about JIm Or Jhon But I do like to change sails .That 's 
>>
one 
>> of the reason I have the Rhodes ..I'm just looking for
the Sail that 
>> woks 
>> Best for me . 
>> By the way You are right when you tell people to ck with Rummy.
His 
>> instructions are right on but not everyone can Sail at
the same 
>> level 
>> that 
>> He can
,or at least I can't ,,Yet ! 
>> Ed don't discount Your advise.
It's also right on just a little blunt 
>> at 
>>
times . 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks Bill Davidge

>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sun, Jun
15, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Tootle <ekroposki at charter.net> wrote: 
>> 
>> > 
>> > Jim: 
>>
> 
>> > I said, "Ask Captain Rummy for his detailed
instructions and 
>> comments." 
>> > 
>> > See, he gave you the best advice yet. 
>> >

>> > 
>> > R22RumRunner wrote: 
>>
> > 
>> > > Jim, 
>> > > Forget
about changing sails. Order the boat with the 175 genoa and 
>>
learn 
>> > > how 
>> > > to adjust the
sail(s) for the conditions. Screwing around with 
>> multiple

>> > > sails is a waste of precious sailing and drinking
time. 
>> > > 
>> > > Rummy 
>> > > 
>> > > If you were a racer you
would not even be asking these questions. 
>> So 
>>
> > follow Rummy's advice. Get the most versitile sail and go 
>> sailing... 
>> > > 
>> > > Ed
K 
>> > > Greenville, SC, USA 
>> > >
Addendum: "A chicken crossing the road is poultry in motion."

>> > > 
>> > > In a message dated
6/14/2008 7:25:12 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
>> > >
jamesldickson at aol.com writes: 
>> > > 
>> >
> 
>> > > HI Ed, 
>> > > Thanks for
the reply - 
>> > > 
>> > > Mary Lou's
information was very helpful as well - Thanks. I'm 
>> buying
the 
>> > > boat through Stan - 1991 recycled- should be
available at the of 
>> the 
>> > > month. 
>> > > The furler that is currently on the boat is the GBI
Factory 
>> Version and 
>> > I 
>>
> > won't be looking to change Genoa sizes often. 
>>
> > 
>> > > But because I sail on a lake with
summer light winds I requested 
>> a 
>> Genoa 
>> > > 150. The 170 is just too big for the lake winds I
sail on - it 
>> would be 
>> > > reefed in
more than 75% of the time. So it needs to be made 
>> special

>> > order 
>> > > which won't be ready by
the time I'm scheduled to go down to 
>> pick 
>> up
the 
>> > > boat. 
>> > > 
>>
> > Stan is going to give me an old 170 to take home until the 150

>> can 
>> be 
>> > > shipped to
me. Which means I need to replace the Genoa's. 
>> Although 
>> I 
>> > been 
>> > > sailing
since I was a kid. I have had the same ODay Javelin that 
>>
has 
>> > been 
>> > > in 
>>
> > our family since 74. I have never sailed anything larger than
19' 
>> and 
>> > > nothing with anytype of
Furler. Just nervous about changing. 
>> > > 
>> > > I've sent an email to Stan to see if it's too late to
change to 
>> the CDI 
>> > > version - this
would actually make it easier to change. I might 
>> even see

>> > > if 
>> > > I can purchase the
old 170 from Stan for times when we take the 
>> boat 
>> > > camping 
>> > > and to the NJ Shore
where there will be more wind and the 170 
>> would make 
>> > > more sense. 
>> > > 
>>
> > But just in case I can't get the CDI furler on it I want to find

>> out how 
>> > > difficult it will be to
make a one time replacement of the old 
>> 170 
>>
to my 
>> > > new 
>> > > 150. Again
with the understanding that I'm by no means anytype of 
>> 
>> master 
>> > > sailor or great with do it
yourself repairs. 
>> > > 
>> > > Thanks
in advance for your advice and help. 
>> > > 
>> > > Jim 
>> > > New rhodes owner 
>> > > Quakertown PA 
>> > > 
>>
> > 
>> > > 
>> > > 
>>
> > 
>> > > 
>> > > Tootle wrote:

>> > >> 
>> > >> JimJim02 
>> > >> 
>> > >> You said that you
were purchasing a Rhodes 22. Is this from 
>> General 
>> > >> Boats? 
>> > >> 
>> > >> As to changing the foresale, it depends as Mary
Lou said which 
>> furler 
>> > >> you 
>> > >> have. That is if the boat has a furler. If you
are 
>> purchasing 
>> that 
>> >
>> 1973 
>> > >> that was posted for sale, it
may be a hank on. 
>> > >> 
>> >
>> Mary Lou pointed out the GBI factory design, CDI, and SnapFurl.

>> There 
>> > >> are 
>> >
>> even more brands. So if you are getting a boat thru GBI, call 
>> and ask 
>> > >> what is on the boat now.
Stan ususally does not change the 
>> furler 
>>
> >> unless 
>> > >> it is broken. So if the
boat has an older CDI, that is what 
>> you 
>> will

>> > >> get. 
>> > >> 
>> > >> Harkin makes one of the best system and charges
accordingly. 
>> It 
>> 
>> allows 
>> > >> changing foresales on the run. It allows hoisting
a second 
>> sail 
>> while 
>> >
>> using the first. It even allow using two sails at the same 
>> time, 
>> as 
>> > in 
>>
> >> wing on wing. 
>> > >> 
>>
> >> So understand, more information is required to answer your

>> question. 
>> > >> Suggest you get a
three ring binder to keep notes of your 
>> questions, 
>> > >> answers and other information. It will get filled
up quickly. 
>> > >> 
>> > >> Ed K

>> > >> Greenville, SC, USA 
>> >
>> Addendum: "boltrope - strong rope stitched to edges of a
sail" 
>> > >> 
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