[Rhodes22-list] What constitutes War; and quick shout out.

[Herb Parsons]

TN,

Maybe you could be so kind as to reference where the "official" 
declaration of war wording for the US can be located. In the Bas v. 
Tingy case in 1800, the Supreme Court clearly ruled that the executive 
branch had the power for limited action (action that would normally be 
called "an act of war") without declaration, or approval, of Congress. 
Since that ruling, there have been various instrument to attempt to 
quantify just how limited that limited action can be. The war powers act 
of 1973 was probably the best known of those attempts. No matter if you 
agree with Congress constitutional "right" to pass such a restriction on 
the executive branch, one thing is clear.

The President acted within the restraint of that act.

In 1992 Congress overwhelmingly passed a joint resolution authorizing 
the President's action.

SC Precedent says this war is allowed, both sides of Congress authorized 
it, and the President acted.

In what way do you think something was done improperly? Maybe they 
forgot to check with you first?

What childish names were called, I must have missed that one.

TN Rhodey wrote:
> I still get list emails but seldom have time to read and even less to
> respond. I will say all is well and we just paid off our home. Sweet!
>
> Some of the subjects catch my interest but I delete most withourt reading.
> This is going to be quite an election. Brad was talking about voting for a
> Clinton, Bill E supporting a republican! Well I am sure Ed still thinks
> everyone who disagrees with him is a Socialist or commie .....
>
> No Ed the resolution is not the same as an actual declaration and that is
> why there is a fuss.  We need to step up and declare war when we want to
> attack a country. However not doing so (declaring war) allows us to ignore
> Geneva Convention and according to current admin the constitution. Luckily
> the Supreme Court corrected some of this in recent decision.
>
> Yes Brad it is true that thousands of POWs died in hell hole prison camps
> during Civil War. This has nothing to do with today's issues but it is
> no excuse for our current behavior. We also allowed slavery back then right?
> By the same logic ....should we bring slavery back. No sir we have come a
> long way as a country. There is much to like and admire about McCain. But it
> is hard to believe he has flip flopped so much on the issue of torture and
> treatment of detainees. Using the argument that they do worse to us is not
> relevant. I don't use terrorists behavior as our standard. We are better
> than that.
>
> My thoughts on the election...Do folks really think the Hillary's women
> supporters will not fall in line and vote for Obama? Once they figure out
> that Supreme Court judges and Roe Vs. Wade may be at stake  they will vote
> Democrat. The polls all show Obama ahead but there is plenty of time for
> either candidate to implode. Despite what they say both sides are in bed
> with the usual tacky lobbyist groups. Money and politics always go hand in
> hand.
>
> I tried hard to pick one of the big two but it looks like Bob Barr is going
> to get my vote.
>
> Oh yeah.....Why did you guys jump so hard on Ron? He figured out what I
> figured out over a year ago.  Do any of you guys even go sailing anymore?
> Calling a guy childish names for deciding not get drawn into silly arguments
> with people who have already made up their minds....well it just seems
> silly.
>
> Fair winds....I will go back into troll mode.
>
> TN Rhodey
>
>
> On 6/23/08, Tootle <ekroposki at charter.net> wrote:
>   
>> Rummy said, "Question? I don't believe that the United States has
>> officially
>> declared  war
>> on Iraq, have we? The Vietnam war wasn't a declared war either, it was a
>> "police action". Same holds true with Korea. The last declared war was
>> WWII.
>> Correct me if I'm wrong.
>>
>> I believe that the Congressional authorization against Iraq is legally
>> considered a declaration of war.  I do not believe that you find the word
>> 'declaration of war' in the subject line, but the language is legally
>> conclusive.
>>
>> That is why we still have all the fuss over that resolution.
>>
>> For what it is worth department.
>>
>> Ed K
>> Greenville, SC, USA
>> "One of the challenges we have is to be able to read the fine print indoors
>> without any sunlight."  Kai Abelkis
>>
>>
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