[Rhodes22-list] Re ad CarefullyThis One! (Political) with historical perspective

Sun Jun 29 12:25:25 EDT 2008

Ed,

Thanks for the links. Sowell, In my mind, can show more common sense 
than most any 10 other journalist combined.

Rik

Ayn Rand was a prophet - - it isn't my fault

Tootle wrote:
> Brad:
>
> Good summary of situation.  Unfortunately the guy who should read it has
> become so entranced with his personal agenda, that he will not give fair
> evaluation regarding expenses.  
>
> Too bad he left the list.  He could defend the Europeans creating a black
> hole when they start their new accelerator.  Could it be that his
> application was one of those not accepted?  See:
>
> http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/06/29/europe/EU-FEA-SCI-Switzerland-Doomsday-Collider.php
>
> All that being said, here are three post by Thomas Sowell that gives
> historical perspective to Ron's agenda:
>
> http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/06/the_imitators.html
>
> http://jewishworldreview.com/cols/sowell062508.php3
>
> http://jewishworldreview.com/cols/sowell062608.php3
>
> There are members of this forum who deny history.  It is important to
> understand what this man is saying.
>
> Ed K
> Greenville, SC, USA
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Same lies, same faces waiting for another turn at the helm with the "Black"
> Messiah.
>
> Brad
>
> ---------------
>
> LIARS' ROUND-UP
>
> By RALPH PETERS
>  <http://ad.doubleclick.net/jump/nyp.postopinion/opedcolumnists;comp=' +
> adid + ';pos=menusky1;sz=160x600;dcove=d;tile=1;ord=123456789?>
> *June 28, 2008* --
>
> THE facts about *your* security are being torn to shreds by activist liars.
> And they think that you're too stupid to know the difference.
>
> Let's lay out the worst current examples of media make-believe and
> election-year truth-trashing:
>
> *Whopper No. 1: America is less **safe today than it was on Sept. **10, 2001
> *. Oh, really? Where's the evidence? The Clinton years saw New York City
> attacked and Americans slaughtered by terrorists around the globe.
> *Nothing*was done to protect us.
>
> And the true end of the Clinton era came on 9/11.
>
> A record to be proud of.
>
> Countless aspects of the Bush-Cheney administration deserve merciless
> criticism. But fair is fair: Since 9/11, we haven't suffered a single
> successful terrorist attack on our homeland. Not one.
>
> Explain to me, please, how this shows we're less safe. What factual
> measurement applies, other than the absence of attacks?
>
> God knows, the terrorists desperately *wanted* to strike our homeland. And
> they couldn't. Are we supposed to believe that was an accident?
>
> *Whopper No. 2: Al Qaeda is **stronger than ever*. Al Qaeda just suffered a
> strategic defeat in Iraq that may prove decisive. It can't launch attacks
> beyond its regional lairs. The cowardly Osama bin Laden can't show his face
> (remember his Clinton-era pep rallies?).
>
> Yes, terrorists can still murder innocents on their home court. I personally
> prefer that to them killing Americans in Manhattan and Washington. Even in
> Iraq, al Qaeda's been beaten down to violent-fugitive status.
>
> By what objective measurement is al Qaeda stronger today than it was when it
> had an entire country for its base and its tentacles reached all the way to
> Florida and the Midwest?
>
> *Whopper No. 3: Success in Iraq **is an illusion - the **surge failed*.
> Folks, this is something only a New York Times columnist could believe.
>
> Every single significant indicator, from Iraqi government progress through
> the performance of Iraqi security forces to the plummeting level of
> violence, has changed for the better - remarkably so.
>
> If current trend-lines continue, it may not be long before Baghdad is safer
> for Iraqi citizens than the Washington-Baltimore metroplex is for US
> citizens. Iraq's government is working, its economy is booming - and its
> military has driven the concentrations of terrorists and militia from every
> one of Iraq's major cities.
>
> And our troops *are* coming home. Where's the failure?
>
> *Whopper No. 4: Iran is **stronger than ever*. Tell that to the Iraqis,
> who've rejected Iranian meddling in their affairs, who've smashed the
> Iran-backed Shia militias and who didn't take long to figure out that
> Tehran's foreign policy was imperialist and anti-Arab.
>
> The people of Iraq don't intend to trade Saddam for Ahmadinejad. Iran has *
> lost* in Iraq. At this point, all the Iranians can do is to kill a handful
> of innocent Iraqis now and then. Think that wins them friends and influence?
>
>
> *Whopper No. 5: **The US-European relationship is **a disaster*. In fact,
> Washington and the major European capitals have built new, sturdier bridges
> to replace old ones that badly needed burning.
>
> The Europeans grudgingly figured out that they need us - as we need them.
> The big break in 2003 cleared a lot of bad air (there was no break with
> Europe's young democracies). Relations today are sounder than they were in
> the fiddle-while-Rome-burns Clinton era.
>
> Oh, and NATO has become a serious military alliance - fighting in
> Afghanistan, patrolling the high seas and conducting special operations
> against terrorists. The Germans announced this week that they're sending
> another thousand troops to Afghanistan. France is re-engaging with NATO's
> military side. Where's the disaster, *mon ami?*
>
> *Whopper No. 6: As president, **Barack
> Obama<http://www.nypost.com/news/p/obama_barack/obama_barack.htm>would
> bring pos
> **itive change to our foreign policy* *- and John McCain's too old to **get
> it.*
>
> Hmm: Take a gander at Obama's senior foreign-policy advisers: Madeleine
> Albright (71), Warren Christopher (82), Anthony Lake (69), Lee Hamilton
> (77), Richard Clarke (57) . . .
>
> If you added up their ages and fed the number into a time-machine, you'd
> land in Europe in the middle of the Black Death.
>
> More important: These are the people whose watch saw the first attack on the
> World Trade Center, Mogadishu, Rwanda, the Srebrenica massacre, a pass for
> the Russians on Chechnya, the Khobar Towers bombing, the attacks on our
> embassies in Africa, the near-sinking of the USS Cole - oh, and the US
> bombing of the Chinese embassy in Belgrade.
>
> Their legacy climaxed on 9/11.
>
> You couldn't assemble a team in Washington with more strategic failures to
> its credit.
>
> *Whopper No. 7: Our troops are **all coming home as psychos vic**timized by
> their participation in **military atrocities*.
>
> Tell it to the Marines.
>
> *Ralph Peters' new book is **"Looking For Trouble."*
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 3:38 AM, Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
> wrote:
>
>   
>> Hank (and Brad)
>>
>> Don't you guys know, the information that the PDD's (poor duped dems)
>> were basing their opinions on were bad intel. Perpetrated by Bush Sr and
>> the MIC (Military Industrial Complex). Though some of those opinions
>> predate President Bush, the fix was already in, and the PDD's were
>> unwittingly (who could ever accuse these people of having wits?) dragged
>> into it and fooled.
>>
>> Yep, had to be what happened...
>>
>> Hank wrote:
>>     
>>> Brad,
>>>
>>> Have you seen this by the GOP?  Kinda hard for the dems to deny video
>>> evidence, isn't it?
>>>
>>> Hank
>>>
>>> A Must see; think of the current impeachment efforts of the liberals
>>>       
>> while
>>     
>>> you watch this. Also remember the video starts with clips from
>>> January/February 1998 and Bush was first elected in 2000.
>>>
>>> The next time you hear the expression 'Bush's war' remember this----note
>>> that there's no 'opinion,' just direct video which deserves wide
>>> distribution.
>>>
>>> This may have been passed around before. While it is endorsed by the
>>> Republican National Committee, it shows the comments of Democrats
>>>       
>> concerning
>>     
>>> the reasons for war in Iraq.
>>>
>>> American leaders can be a fickle lot...
>>>
>>> THIS COUNTRY NEEDS TO RUN THIS VIDEO OVER AND OVER UNTIL ALL OF US FULLY
>>> UNDERSTAND WHAT IS GOING ON!!!
>>>
>>> The most despicable acts of deceit ongoing in this country are the lies
>>>       
>> and
>>     
>>> hypocrisy perpetrated by the people seen in this short video. Here's a
>>>       
>> video
>>     
>>> compilation you definitely won't see on main stream media.
>>>
>>> http://www.bercasio.
>>> com/movies/dems-wmd-before-iraq.wmv<
>>>       
>> http://www.bercasio.com/movies/dems-wmd-before-iraq.wmv>
>>     
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