[Rhodes22-list] Catastrophe or a disaster?

[Brad Haslett]

Pete,

A bit testy are we?  My observation was directed at Rob's comment about W
having "avoided the Vietnam War" not yours.  Relax, if you want some lessons
on how to have a real cat fight, search the archives for some of the debates
between Bill Effros and myself. Bill is a real pro and doesn't think every
comment is directed at him personally. A lot of folks don't like being
strapped to an "F-thing" and who can blame them.  The death rate in that
contraption was higher than serving in Vietnam, and their mission was to
patrol the southern border against Cuban based Soviet aircraft.  The F-102
also served in Vietnam with several National Guard pilot losses. Exactly
what did Bill Clinton do during Vietnam? As to your agenda?  Frankly my
dear.........

Brad

On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 8:11 AM, petelargo <petelauritzen at earthlink.net>
wrote:

>
> Don't you think it is just a little presumptuous and dismissive to declare
> what you think my "agenda" is when you don't know one thing about me? And
> as
> regards your imagery of being strapped to your 'F-thing' while at full
> thrust, you will have to find someone else as I don't swing that way. (not
> that there is anything wrong with that).
>
>
> Brad Haslett-2 wrote:
> >
> > Herb,
> >
> > You're wasting your time.  These rants are from people with a whole
> > different agenda.  But just for shits and grins, I'd like to strap their
> > ass
> > to an F-102 for one ride and see if they still want to run their mouth
> > about
> > "avoiding Vietnam" again.
> >
> > Brad
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Mymymy, aren't we glad you don't write the history books. Soooo much
> >> spin, garbage, and nonsense, one hardly knows where to begin.
> >>
> >>
> >> Rob Lowe wrote:
> >> > Oh, I don't know.  It's an interesting question, but I agree it has
> >> nothing
> >> > to do with discussing the current candidates and should be debating
> on
> >> it's
> >> > own merits.  Pete, which is worse, a catastrophe or a disaster?  I am
> >> > undecided how W's administration will be remembered too, between
> those
> >> two
> >> > choices that is.
> >> >
> >> > In some ways, you got to feel sorry for W.  He grew up in the shadow
> of
> >> his
> >> > very famous and successful father.  Although I didn't care much for
> >> George
> >> > H.W., I have to admire him for his accomplishments and his success.
> >> H.W
> >> .
> >> > was a successful collage baseball player, war hero, business man, a
> >> pretty
> >> > good politician, and put together a coalition to drive the Iraqis out
> >> of
> >> > Kuwait.  W. on the other hand was a C student, avoided the Vietnam
> War,
> >> > failed in business until his daddy's rich friends bought his
> businesses
> >> at
> >> > inflated prices, choose partisanship over accomplishments in politics
> >> > (although I have to argue Cheney is the force behind most of that),
> and
> >> got
> >> > into two wars that he can't win.  And bin Laden is still on the
> loose.
> >> >
> >> > W.'s pretty much shot Jeb's chance at the White House, and it wasn't
> >> > supposed to be that way.  Jeb is the favorite son and was being
> groomed
> >> for
> >> > the White House.  But W, looking for daddy's approval, decided to run
> >> for
> >> > the White House and won.  Well, he didn't win it, the Supreme Court
> >> gave
> >> it
> >> > to him.
> >> >
> >> > Yes, history will be the judge of W's legacy.  But this is the same
> guy
> >> > trying to spin his own legacy.  This is the guy who has compared
> >> himself
> >> to
> >> > both George Washington and Abraham Lincoln.  You sure don't see
> anyone
> >> else
> >> > comparing W. to Washington or Lincoln, not even his most ardent
> >> supporters.
> >> >
> >> > So, catastrophe or disaster?  Worse president in American history?
> >> Only
> >> > time will tell.  - rob
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "Herb Parsons" <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
> >> > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> > Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 11:43 AM
> >> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Say What, Barack?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> Huh???? How is discussing whether "the bush presidency will be
> >> evtually
> >> >> considered a catastrophe or a disaster" more a substantiative
> >> political
> >> >> critique than discussing the current candidates? The Bush presidency
> >> is
> >> >> just about over, and virtually nothing can be done to change his
> >> course.
> >> >> History has shown that the great presidencies were typically not
> >> >> recognized as such until LONG after they're over. In reality, that
> >> >> discussion would be virtually empty of substance were it to be held
> >> now.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>> For a more substantiative political critique I suggest the
> discussion
> >> of
> >> >>> whether the bush presidency will be eventually considered a
> >> catastrophe
> >> >>>
> >> > or a
> >> >
> >> >>> disaster. I am undecided, but willing to hear arguments on both
> >> sides.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Pete Hussein Lauritzen
> >> >>> Key Largo
> >> >>>
> >> >
> >> >
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> >> S/V Reve de Pappa - Coronado 35
> >>
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