[Rhodes22-list] Catastrophe or a disaster?

[petelargo]

No worries. I was actually kidding. I got a thick skin and I heard you are a
relatively nice guy.  


Brad Haslett-2 wrote:
> 
> Pete,
> 
> A bit testy are we?  My observation was directed at Rob's comment about W
> having "avoided the Vietnam War" not yours.  Relax, if you want some
> lessons
> on how to have a real cat fight, search the archives for some of the
> debates
> between Bill Effros and myself. Bill is a real pro and doesn't think every
> comment is directed at him personally. A lot of folks don't like being
> strapped to an "F-thing" and who can blame them.  The death rate in that
> contraption was higher than serving in Vietnam, and their mission was to
> patrol the southern border against Cuban based Soviet aircraft.  The F-102
> also served in Vietnam with several National Guard pilot losses. Exactly
> what did Bill Clinton do during Vietnam? As to your agenda?  Frankly my
> dear.........
> 
> Brad
> 
> On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 8:11 AM, petelargo <petelauritzen at earthlink.net>
> wrote:
> 
>>
>> Don't you think it is just a little presumptuous and dismissive to
>> declare
>> what you think my "agenda" is when you don't know one thing about me? And
>> as
>> regards your imagery of being strapped to your 'F-thing' while at full
>> thrust, you will have to find someone else as I don't swing that way.
>> (not
>> that there is anything wrong with that).
>>
>>
>> Brad Haslett-2 wrote:
>> >
>> > Herb,
>> >
>> > You're wasting your time.  These rants are from people with a whole
>> > different agenda.  But just for shits and grins, I'd like to strap
>> their
>> > ass
>> > to an F-102 for one ride and see if they still want to run their mouth
>> > about
>> > "avoiding Vietnam" again.
>> >
>> > Brad
>> >
>> > On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Mymymy, aren't we glad you don't write the history books. Soooo much
>> >> spin, garbage, and nonsense, one hardly knows where to begin.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Rob Lowe wrote:
>> >> > Oh, I don't know.  It's an interesting question, but I agree it has
>> >> nothing
>> >> > to do with discussing the current candidates and should be debating
>> on
>> >> it's
>> >> > own merits.  Pete, which is worse, a catastrophe or a disaster?  I
>> am
>> >> > undecided how W's administration will be remembered too, between
>> those
>> >> two
>> >> > choices that is.
>> >> >
>> >> > In some ways, you got to feel sorry for W.  He grew up in the shadow
>> of
>> >> his
>> >> > very famous and successful father.  Although I didn't care much for
>> >> George
>> >> > H.W., I have to admire him for his accomplishments and his success.
>> >> H.W
>> >> .
>> >> > was a successful collage baseball player, war hero, business man, a
>> >> pretty
>> >> > good politician, and put together a coalition to drive the Iraqis
>> out
>> >> of
>> >> > Kuwait.  W. on the other hand was a C student, avoided the Vietnam
>> War,
>> >> > failed in business until his daddy's rich friends bought his
>> businesses
>> >> at
>> >> > inflated prices, choose partisanship over accomplishments in
>> politics
>> >> > (although I have to argue Cheney is the force behind most of that),
>> and
>> >> got
>> >> > into two wars that he can't win.  And bin Laden is still on the
>> loose.
>> >> >
>> >> > W.'s pretty much shot Jeb's chance at the White House, and it wasn't
>> >> > supposed to be that way.  Jeb is the favorite son and was being
>> groomed
>> >> for
>> >> > the White House.  But W, looking for daddy's approval, decided to
>> run
>> >> for
>> >> > the White House and won.  Well, he didn't win it, the Supreme Court
>> >> gave
>> >> it
>> >> > to him.
>> >> >
>> >> > Yes, history will be the judge of W's legacy.  But this is the same
>> guy
>> >> > trying to spin his own legacy.  This is the guy who has compared
>> >> himself
>> >> to
>> >> > both George Washington and Abraham Lincoln.  You sure don't see
>> anyone
>> >> else
>> >> > comparing W. to Washington or Lincoln, not even his most ardent
>> >> supporters.
>> >> >
>> >> > So, catastrophe or disaster?  Worse president in American history?
>> >> Only
>> >> > time will tell.  - rob
>> >> >
>> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> > From: "Herb Parsons" <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
>> >> > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> >> > Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 11:43 AM
>> >> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Say What, Barack?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >> Huh???? How is discussing whether "the bush presidency will be
>> >> evtually
>> >> >> considered a catastrophe or a disaster" more a substantiative
>> >> political
>> >> >> critique than discussing the current candidates? The Bush
>> presidency
>> >> is
>> >> >> just about over, and virtually nothing can be done to change his
>> >> course.
>> >> >> History has shown that the great presidencies were typically not
>> >> >> recognized as such until LONG after they're over. In reality, that
>> >> >> discussion would be virtually empty of substance were it to be held
>> >> now.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> For a more substantiative political critique I suggest the
>> discussion
>> >> of
>> >> >>> whether the bush presidency will be eventually considered a
>> >> catastrophe
>> >> >>>
>> >> > or a
>> >> >
>> >> >>> disaster. I am undecided, but willing to hear arguments on both
>> >> sides.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Pete Hussein Lauritzen
>> >> >>> Key Largo
>> >> >>>
>> >> >
>> >> >
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