[Rhodes22-list] Vino Scooter response

Fri Mar 28 22:17:25 EDT 2008

Jerry,
I don't have one yet.  I will send one probably this June or July when I tow north.  The trailer, a custom galvenized, was designed with 1' extra forward of the winch for the bike.  Adding ~240#, it balances well on the hitch with the boat back another 3"-6".  I power the bike up a channel 'ramp' onto the horizontal channel.  4" channel captures the tires tightly.
Art

-----Original Message-----
>From: cjlowe at sssnet.com
>Sent: Mar 28, 2008 9:41 PM
>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Vino Scooter response Was- Stan and Brad,	now for Art, scooters
>
>Art,
>  I'd like to see a picture of your Vino loaded up on your trailer if
>you have one handy. The Burgy is a whole lot more weight than I'd like
>to burden my Triad with,plus I'd have to eat a few more boxes of
>Wheaties before I'd try to lift it up there.
>I usually try to get at least one trip to the lake after work in the
>middle of the week,(70 mi. round trip) and It's just the ticket for
>that. If I overnight on the weekends,I usually take my '99 Goldwing for
>the extra storage and tunes.
>Jerry Lowe
>
>
>
>On 3/28/2008, "Arthur H. Czerwonky" <czerwonky at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>>Hi Jerry,
>>I use a Vino 125 (Yamaha), which is a realistic 50-55 mph and 85-90 mpg.  The logic for this model is size and portability as well as economy.  I don't use on the interstate, but everywhere else.  Given the dominance of semi's on the interstate highways I'm not sure I'd care to compete for the space.  The Vino carries well on my Rhodes trailer with the addition of two portable 'C' sections I mount on the front - important to me.  My wife can drive the Vino without difficulty - no shifting - also important.  I have never needed the convenience of carring it on the boat, probably never will as I use a folding Yeah bike.
>>I have been surprised how many have stopped me re their own interest in a cycle or scooter.  It may not dent the sheiks' oil revenue, but sure does expand my transportation budget!  I cover many miles each month between boat and home base.  Maybe a little like sailing, not even considering the sheer pleasure involved in both activities.
>>Art
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: cjlowe at sssnet.com
>>>Sent: Mar 28, 2008 6:38 PM
>>>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Was- Stan and Brad,now for Art, scooters
>>>
>>>I think I remember you mentioning you had a scooter,a while back. What
>>>have you got and what kind of mpg do you get.
>>>I wore out a Honda Helix 250 (1999) last June,and replaced it with a
>>>Suzuki Bergman 400. The helix got about 56 mpg at wot.I took it easy for
>>>a tankfull one time,and got 62 mpg,just wasn't worth poking around for
>>>180 miles. The Burgy gets 54 mpg when I romp on it,and will get over 60
>>>mpg all day long at 70mph,highway.
>>>Anybody else have a plan to starve the middle east?
>>>
>>>Jerry Lowe
>>>
>>>On 3/28/2008, "Arthur H. Czerwonky" <czerwonky at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Guys,
>>>>We're slipping badly on the subject line, normally a gripe of Ed except when he is in the thick of it.  We shouldn't hide our 'Political' label on the subject line behind other 'topics' that creep in front.
>>>>Art
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: Tootle <ekroposki at charter.net>
>>>>>Sent: Mar 27, 2008 7:48 PM
>>>>>To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>>>>Subject: [Rhodes22-list]  Stan and Brad
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Stan,
>>>>>
>>>>>I will respond to your post next week...
>>>>>
>>>>>Brad,
>>>>>       Chris said, "we need a break from the political sniping and dogmatic
>>>>>suicide bombers of the political scene."  For Chris's request for a break, I
>>>>>will comply for a few days.  However, before I depart for a place without a
>>>>>computer, I will post the following educational piece:
>>>>>
>>>>>Black Liberation Is Marxist Liberation
>>>>>By Anthony B. Bradley
>>>>>
>>>>>One of the pillars of Obama's home church, Trinity United Church of Christ,
>>>>>is "economic parity." On the website, Trinity claims that God is not pleased
>>>>>with "America's economic mal-distribution." Among all of controversial
>>>>>comments by Jeremiah Wright the idea of massive wealth redistribution is the
>>>>>most alarming. The code language "economic parity" and references to
>>>>>"mal-distribution" is nothing more than channeling the twisted economic
>>>>>views of Karl Marx. Black liberation theologians have explicitly stated a
>>>>>preference for Marxism as an ethical framework for the black church because
>>>>>Marxist thought is predicated on a system of oppressor class (whites) versus
>>>>>victim class (blacks).
>>>>>
>>>>>Black Liberation theologians James Cone and Cornel West have worked
>>>>>diligently to embed Marxist thought into the black church since the 1970s.
>>>>>For Cone, Marxism best addressed remedies to the condition of Blacks as
>>>>>victims of White oppression. In For My People, Cone explains that "the
>>>>>Christian faith does not possess in its nature the means for analyzing the
>>>>>structure of capitalism. Marxism as a tool of social analysis can disclose
>>>>>the gap between appearance and reality, and thereby help Christians to see
>>>>>how things really are."
>>>>>
>>>>>In God of the Oppressed, Cone said that Marx's chief contribution is "his
>>>>>disclosure of the ideological character of bourgeois thought, indicating the
>>>>>connections between the 'ruling material force of society' and the 'ruling
>>>>>intellectual' force." Marx's thought is useful and attractive to Cone
>>>>>because it allows Black theologians to critique racism in America on the
>>>>>basis of power and revolution.
>>>>>
>>>>>For Cone, integrating Marx into Black theology helps theologians see just
>>>>>how much social perceptions determine theological questions and conclusions.
>>>>>Moreover, these questions and answers are "largely a reflection of the
>>>>>material condition of a given society."
>>>>>
>>>>>In 1979, Cornel West offered a critical integration of Marxism and Black
>>>>>theology in his essay, "Black Theology and Marxist Thought" because of the
>>>>>shared human experience of oppressed peoples as victims. West sees a strong
>>>>>correlation between Black theology and Marxist thought because "both focus
>>>>>on the plight of the exploited, oppressed and degraded peoples of the world,
>>>>>their relative powerlessness and possible empowerment." This common focus
>>>>>prompts West to call for "a serious dialogue between Black theologians and
>>>>>Marxist thinkers"--a dialogue that centers on the possibility of "mutually
>>>>>arrived-at political action."
>>>>>
>>>>>In his book Prophesy Deliverance, West believes that by working together,
>>>>>Marxists and Black theologians can spearhead much-needed social change for
>>>>>those who are victims of oppression. He appreciates Marxism for its "notions
>>>>>of class struggle, social contradictions, historical specificity, and
>>>>>dialectical developments in history" that explain the role of power and
>>>>>wealth in bourgeois capitalist societies. A common perspective among Marxist
>>>>>thinkers is that bourgeois capitalism creates and perpetuates ruling-class
>>>>>domination--which, for Black theologians in America, means the domination
>>>>>and victimization of Blacks by Whites. American has been over run by "White
>>>>>racism within mainstream establishment churches and religious agencies,"
>>>>>writes West.
>>>>>
>>>>>Perhaps it is the Marxism imbedded in Obama's attending Trinity Church that
>>>>>should raise red flags. "Economic parity" and "distribution" language
>>>>>implies things like government-coerced wealth redistribution, perpetual
>>>>>minimum wage increases, government subsidized health care for all, and the
>>>>>like. One of the priorities listed on Obama's campaign website reads, "Obama
>>>>>will protect tax cuts for poor and middle class families, but he will
>>>>>reverse most of the Bush tax cuts for the wealthiest taxpayers."
>>>>>
>>>>>Black Liberation Theology, originally intended to help the black community,
>>>>>may have actually hurt many blacks by promoting racial tension, victimology,
>>>>>and Marxism which ultimately leads to more oppression. As the failed "War on
>>>>>Poverty" has exposed, the best way to keep the blacks perpetually enslaved
>>>>>to government as "daddy" is to preach victimology, Marxism, and seduce
>>>>>blacks into thinking that upward mobility is someone else's responsibility
>>>>>in a free society.
>>>>>
>>>>>Anthony B. Bradley is a research fellow at the Acton Institute, and
>>>>>assistant professor of theology at Covenant Theological Seminary in St.
>>>>>Louis. His PhD dissertation is titled, "Victimology in Black Liberation
>>>>>Theology."
>>>>>
>>>>>See ya all next week...
>>>>>
>>>>>Ed K
>>>>>Greenville, SC, USA
>>>>>And Good night...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>--
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