[Rhodes22-list] Politics - Stan and Brad

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To add the proper context to the Rice discussion, she was actually supporting
Obamas race speech calling it "important for a whole host of reasons".  She
also stated that the issue is far from being resolved using very strong
language in calling it an "american birth defect" from the founding of our
country.  I am thinking of rejecting and denouncing her, but too busy
dodging sniper fire.


Brad Haslett-2 wrote:
> 
> Herb,
> 
> My dream ticket would have been Rice/Anybody but she so far denies any
> interest in the job - says she'd prefer to be the NFL Commissioner. If she
> agrees to run with McCain that would probably sweeten the deal just enough
> that I could vote for him without following his mother's advice and "hold
> your nose". Put your chips on Romney for now and let them ride. The Dems
> have a huge problem on their hand with no visible solution.  The Clinton's
> won't quit and why should they?  Hillary has an even chance against McCain
> in the fall despite her negatives.  Obama's clean image will suffer under
> scrutiny and the "audacity of hope" will look more and more like the
> "audacity of hype".  I'll put good money down that he loses by 3 to 5 per
> cent in popular vote and a much wider margin in the electoral college.  A
> lot will depend on the economy and how well his populist economic message
> sells to "the middle". He's got a lot more skeletons to defend. Hillary is
> kinda 'ghoulish' in her own way but everyone has gotten used to her so
> she's
> not as scary as she once was.
> 
> I got to hear Condi give a relaxed press conference in her office today on
> the web but can't find the link to the website now.  She addressed race
> issues in a very eloquent fashion from her and her family's first hand
> experience in Montgomery, AL.  Condi called it the "birth defect" of the
> nation.  As much as I tire of the hero worship for Obama, I can empathize
> somewhat when considering my own admiration for Dr. Rice.
> 
> This will be an interesting race.
> 
> Brad
> 
> On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 5:46 PM, Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> Well, truth be told, had anyone bothered to check with me first, I would
>> have had either a Romney/Rice ticket, or a Rice/Romney ticket (probably
>> to former, since she has no "elected official" history) - but
>> unfortunately, they forgot to check in with me before running off
>> Romney...
>>
>> David Bradley wrote:
>> > And Condoleezza just happened to speak out today...  hmm.  McCain/Rice
>> > vs. Obama/Richardson.
>> >
>> > It's been interesting to see the knives being sharpened waiting for
>> > Barack to get the nomination.  In our neighborhood caucus the fact
>> > that Hillary has already been "battle tested" was a convincing factor
>> > for some on the fence.
>> >
>> > Dave
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 2:18 PM, Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I don't disagree with you, just don't know enough to agree.
>> Personally,
>> >> I hope you're right, because from where I've sat (a disinterested
>> >> non-Democrat who refused to "cross lines" just to vote for the lesser
>> >> challenge), he's looked more electable to me than Billary is. It's
>> >> becoming obvious he's going to win the nomination, so I hope he can't
>> >> win the election.
>> >>
>> >> Saw a blurb today on Drudge that said hinted at a possible
>> McCain/Romney
>> >> ticket. That would suit me just fine, but I'd really prefer to see a
>> >> McCain/Rice ticket myself.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Brad Haslett wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Herb,
>> >>>
>> >>> "He's toast" because Barry Obama has more "lost" baggage than any
>> airline
>> >>> and it will come to light.  Had the MSM done their job instead of
>> getting a
>> >>> "tingling in their leg" listening to him speak, this would already be
>> in the
>> >>> open. The OMessiah ran "silent and deep" like a submariner  in the
>> Illinois
>> >>> legislature.  The guy made it to the US Senate basically unopposed
>> and
>> with
>> >>> little scrutiny.  That is not the case now.  Right now it is the
>> Clinton's
>> >>> who are trying to shine a spot light on the guy but they are walking
>> a
>> >>> tightrope so as to not piss off their own base.  McCain will take the
>> high
>> >>> road in the general election but there are no shortages of 527's and
>> >>> bloggers who will point out the disturbing associations and history
>> of
>> this
>> >>> guy.  I don't have a dog in this hunt, for me it will be a process of
>> >>> choosing the least of weasels, but it is going to be fun seeing the
>> MSM get
>> >>> exposed for their incompetence and infatuation. Obama will need ALL
>> of
>> >>> Chicago to get re-elected as Senator - downstaters won't support him
>> once
>> >>> they come to know him.
>> >>>
>> >>> Brad
>> >>>
>> >>> On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 9:23 AM, Herb Parsons
>> <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>> I don't know that I agree with the statement that "he's toast", but
>> the
>> >>>> whole discussion HAS gotten me thinking about how interesting the US
>> >>>> political process is. How often do we have political candidates that
>> are
>> >>>> seriously considered for the highest office in our country, arguably
>> the
>> >>>> most powerful position in the world, that fade into obscurity
>> >>>> afterwards? Actually, the easier question would be how often do the
>> >>>> losers NOT fade into obscurity? There are the occasional "succeed on
>> the
>> >>>> second try" candidates, but for the most part, if you lose a serious
>> >>>> presidential bid, you can just about shelve your further political
>> >>>> aspirations.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Face it, we're a fickle group. As much was love the "underdog", we
>> >>>> dislike losers more.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I think Brad's partially right. If Obama doesn't become President,
>> he
>> >>>> will fade to obscurity. I also feel his fall (if it happens) will be
>> as
>> >>>> fast as his rise.
>> >>>> If Hillary doesn't become President, I believe she'll be Al Gore x
>> 10.
>> >>>> She'll be unelectable (and will probably realize it), but will
>> become
>> an
>> >>>> "activist" (or spoiler, depending on your view) for as long as there
>> are
>> >>>> folks that will continue to listen.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Brad Haslett wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> Ed,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Yup!  It's a mix of Marxist dogma and victimization profit taking.
>>  The
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>> good
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> Rev. Wright is moving into a new $1.6 million mansion.  So much for
>> >>>>> eschewing "middleclassness".  Either liberation theology pays well
>> or
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>> he's
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> financing his new diggs the same way Barry and Michelle did theirs.
>> The
>> >>>>> O-man is going to talk tough to the bullies of the world but
>> listens
>> to
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>> 20+
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> years of white hating, anti-Semitic, anti-American rants, donates
>> money
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>> to
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> the organization, and exposes his kids to this crap - but doesn't
>> say
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>> squat
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> to the leader.  Yeah, he's one tough SOB. Other than watching this
>> thing
>> >>>>> unfold just for fun it's already getting boring.  Obama is toast,
>> he'll
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>> be
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> lucky to get re-elected to the Senate.  Move along folks nothing to
>> see
>> >>>>> here!
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Brad
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 6:48 PM, Tootle <ekroposki at charter.net>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
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