[Rhodes22-list] This day in history

[Brad Haslett]

Rob,

Herb's a big boy and can defend himself, so I'll let him.  I too feel his
frustrations at times though.  The carrier landing was a celebration for the
men and women who had been at sea for a good long while in support of the
Iraqi liberation. They were honored to have been visited by their Commander
in Chief and it showed on their faces.  President Bush didn't immediately
rush for the Admiral's quarters, he spent a lot of time with the 'grunts'
taking photos, hugging them, etc.  It was obvious they loved having him
aboard and watching it live made me proud to be an American.  Was it a
political event as well?  Everything a politician does is a political event.

Today's newspaper is the first draft of history and often wrong in the
reporting and analysis.  Go read a newspaper from 1948 to 1952 and see how
popular Truman was at the time.  Some people are so jaded by their BDS (Bush
Derangement Syndrome) that they can't see anything positive in anything. You
are probably a classic case.  Bush's term is almost over and it might be
time for everyone to move on to tomorrow's problems.

Let me say this - when I think critics are taking delight in the difficulty
and losses our military is encountering because it suits their political
slant, it pisses me off to no end. Frankly, I don't think we should have
engaged in 2/3rds of the deployments we did under Clinton, and I didn't and
still don't like the Clintons.  That said, I want to see any engagement
where we put our troops in harm's way to go well regardless of how I may
personally feel about the commander.  My guess is, Herb gets upset for the
same reasons I do.  Bitch about Bush is you want, it's a free country.  The
men and women on that boat that day risked their lives so you can do so.

Brad



On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 9:55 AM, Rob Lowe <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote:

> Whoa, Herb, easy now, got your panties in a knot now.
>
> Feel free to disagree with my politics or my opinions, but personal
> insults
> are both unwarranted and uncalled for.  It's long been said that someone
> that doesn't have anything useful to add to a discussion turns to insults.
> You don't know anything about me so your judgments have no merit.  I'd
> also
> suggest you are violating the terms of our charter (recently posted by
> Rummy
> and repeated here):
>
> Netiquette: Posts to the group are expected to be considerate of  other
> readers. Personal abuse, flames, and obscenities are  *not*
> appreciated; but we are sailors.......
>
> Now, I could return insults, but see you reason to sink to your level.
>
> Yes, Bush what he said he was going to do.  So what?  That doesn't make it
> right.
>
> Bush (in my humble opinion) is certainly the worse president in my life
> time
> (well, maybe Nixon was worse, hard to say.  Nixon was just plain evil).
>  And
> there is a good chance history will judge him as the worse president ever.
> You always ask for sources, here's some
>
> http://hnn.us/articles/48916.html
>
>
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/12/01/AR2006120101509.html
>
> http://harpers.org/archive/2008/04/hbc-90002804
>
> http://www.pollingreport.com/wh-hstry.htm
>
> and I could go on and on.
>
> You don't agree with me?  fine, debate the ideas.  show us what a great
> president he is.  - Rob
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Herb Parsons" <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 4:25 AM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] This day in history
>
>
> > Rob, you're pathetic. Bush did exactly what he said he did, and you want
> > to berate him for that. You're a loser.
> >
> > Rob Lowe wrote:
> > > No smoke being blown by me of course, just by Bush.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Brad Haslett" <flybrad at gmail.com>
> > > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 5:02 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] This day in history
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> Rob,
> > >>
> > >> I remember the moment well - watched it live during the afternoon
> launch
> > >> with a bunch of Navy pilots and a substantial number of Air Force
> pilots
> > >> commenting on how easy it must be to land on a target that's always
> > >>
> > > pointed
> > >
> > >> into the wind. First, as a pilot, Bush 43 proved his stripes flying a
> most
> > >> difficult and unforgiving aircraft.  He earned his flight suit and
> looked
> > >> good in it that day!  You may have a political point you want to
> score,
> so
> > >> be it.  Just don't blow smoke your asshole hasn't earned!
> > >>
> > >> Brad
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 3:52 PM, Rob Lowe <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> Five years ago, today, President Bush declares victory in Iraq
> aboard
> an
> > >>> aircraft carrier bearing a victory banner.
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