[Rhodes22-list] This day in history

Fri May 2 11:44:17 EDT 2008

Brad,
Couldn't agree with you more.  Well said.  I do agree that critics are
taking delight in the difficulties our military is having, and that's just
plain wrong.  These men and women are working their butts off and
sacrificing and it's unconsciousable to take political satisfaction from the
difficulties other face. - rob

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brad Haslett" <flybrad at gmail.com>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 11:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] This day in history

> Rob,
>
> Herb's a big boy and can defend himself, so I'll let him.  I too feel his
> frustrations at times though.  The carrier landing was a celebration for
the
> men and women who had been at sea for a good long while in support of the
> Iraqi liberation. They were honored to have been visited by their
Commander
> in Chief and it showed on their faces.  President Bush didn't immediately
> rush for the Admiral's quarters, he spent a lot of time with the 'grunts'
> taking photos, hugging them, etc.  It was obvious they loved having him
> aboard and watching it live made me proud to be an American.  Was it a
> political event as well?  Everything a politician does is a political
event.
>
> Today's newspaper is the first draft of history and often wrong in the
> reporting and analysis.  Go read a newspaper from 1948 to 1952 and see how
> popular Truman was at the time.  Some people are so jaded by their BDS
(Bush
> Derangement Syndrome) that they can't see anything positive in anything.
You
> are probably a classic case.  Bush's term is almost over and it might be
> time for everyone to move on to tomorrow's problems.
>
> Let me say this - when I think critics are taking delight in the
difficulty
> and losses our military is encountering because it suits their political
> slant, it pisses me off to no end. Frankly, I don't think we should have
> engaged in 2/3rds of the deployments we did under Clinton, and I didn't
and
> still don't like the Clintons.  That said, I want to see any engagement
> where we put our troops in harm's way to go well regardless of how I may
> personally feel about the commander.  My guess is, Herb gets upset for the
> same reasons I do.  Bitch about Bush is you want, it's a free country.
The
> men and women on that boat that day risked their lives so you can do so.
>
> Brad
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 9:55 AM, Rob Lowe <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote:
>
> > Whoa, Herb, easy now, got your panties in a knot now.
> >
> > Feel free to disagree with my politics or my opinions, but personal
> > insults
> > are both unwarranted and uncalled for.  It's long been said that someone
> > that doesn't have anything useful to add to a discussion turns to
insults.
> > You don't know anything about me so your judgments have no merit.  I'd
> > also
> > suggest you are violating the terms of our charter (recently posted by
> > Rummy
> > and repeated here):
> >
> > Netiquette: Posts to the group are expected to be considerate of  other
> > readers. Personal abuse, flames, and obscenities are  *not*
> > appreciated; but we are sailors.......
> >
> > Now, I could return insults, but see you reason to sink to your level.
> >
> > Yes, Bush what he said he was going to do.  So what?  That doesn't make
it
> > right.
> >
> > Bush (in my humble opinion) is certainly the worse president in my life
> > time
> > (well, maybe Nixon was worse, hard to say.  Nixon was just plain evil).
> >  And
> > there is a good chance history will judge him as the worse president
ever.
> > You always ask for sources, here's some
> >
> > http://hnn.us/articles/48916.html
> >
> >
> >
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/12/01/AR2006120101509.html
> >
> > http://harpers.org/archive/2008/04/hbc-90002804
> >
> > http://www.pollingreport.com/wh-hstry.htm
> >
> > and I could go on and on.
> >
> > You don't agree with me?  fine, debate the ideas.  show us what a great
> > president he is.  - Rob
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Herb Parsons" <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
> > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 4:25 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] This day in history
> >
> >
> > > Rob, you're pathetic. Bush did exactly what he said he did, and you
want
> > > to berate him for that. You're a loser.
> > >
> > > Rob Lowe wrote:
> > > > No smoke being blown by me of course, just by Bush.
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Brad Haslett" <flybrad at gmail.com>
> > > > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 5:02 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] This day in history
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> Rob,
> > > >>
> > > >> I remember the moment well - watched it live during the afternoon
> > launch
> > > >> with a bunch of Navy pilots and a substantial number of Air Force
> > pilots
> > > >> commenting on how easy it must be to land on a target that's always
> > > >>
> > > > pointed
> > > >
> > > >> into the wind. First, as a pilot, Bush 43 proved his stripes flying
a
> > most
> > > >> difficult and unforgiving aircraft.  He earned his flight suit and
> > looked
> > > >> good in it that day!  You may have a political point you want to
> > score,
> > so
> > > >> be it.  Just don't blow smoke your asshole hasn't earned!
> > > >>
> > > >> Brad
> > > >>
> > > >> On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 3:52 PM, Rob Lowe <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>> Five years ago, today, President Bush declares victory in Iraq
> > aboard
> > an
> > > >>> aircraft carrier bearing a victory banner.
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