[Rhodes22-list] This day in history

Fri May 2 16:28:36 EDT 2008

1) Ahhh, so racial comments are OK, as long as they're jokes. And if 
someone takes offense, the "joke is on them".

2) You're just flat wrong about Bush's service. Yes, he probably didn't 
want to go to war. Yes, he probably pulled every string he could find to 
get in the National Guard instead. That's fine, he didn't break any 
laws. He served in the Guard, he served honorably. Jerks who sit on the 
sidelines and disparage that are service are losers (see Rob, you WERE 
wrong about the "nobody"). I'll count you among those losers. I'm 
curious, did you serve?

3) That's laughable Pete. I've been to airport to see the troops off, 
I've been to the airport to welcome them home, and I've ridden at the 
funerals of their friends. They have actually been spit on by some folks 
when they've come back. Not as bad as it was in the 60's, but it's 
happened. One was called a rapist because he wore the uniform.

4) What does the monetary donations of the troops have to do with the 
discussion? Surely you're not going to try to draw the inference that 
because they, as a group, donate more to Ron Paul (though you never 
indicated your source, I doubt it's true), that means it was because one 
particular view he holds? Surely not... Oh wait, you're a lib. I forgot, 
draw the make the facts fit your conclusion...

5) What claptrap. There were no crimes against the constitution. Unless 
you name specifics, maybe should pull that particular pickle out.

6) Where did you get your number that 81% of Americans think we're on 
the wrong track? And, wrong track about what? If you mean that 81% 
percent of American's think we're on the wrong track about SOMETHING, 
I'd say the number is probably closer to 100%.

petelargo wrote:
> 1) That specific line is purely a joke based on the current political
> musings. If you don't get it (no matter how bad it might be) then I guess
> the joke is on you.
>
> 2) Please do not tout Bush as some great 'serviceman'. He was a silver spoon
> 'bubba' that was a war dodger, period. In fact I would hold up Rev Wrights 6
> years of Marine service over Bushes questionable Texas Air Guard. Hey, he is
> the one that classified the information. If you are so proud why hide it.
>
> 3) I am connected to many people that are lefties, righties, libertarians
> and just plain crazies. I have yet to meet even one person amongst them that
> doubts the sincerity and efforts made by the our armed forces. So unless you
> have specifics and not generalizations of 'lefties against the troops' , you
> can finally pull that particular pickle out. 
>
> 4) Early in the primaries (Feb) the troops themselves number one candidate
> per actual monetary donation (not easy on military pay) was Ron Paul, who
> never supported Iraq and wants them out immediately. Second was Barack
> Obama. 
>
> 5) I am extremely proud of our military, but not the Commander in Chief.  He
> should be held accountable and tried for Crimes against the Constitution
> (the document he swore to uphold) and he is already in serious legal trouble
> now trying to cover his personal ass. Even many mainstream conservatives
> were mind blown that the President gave a tax cut to the wealthy at a time
> during wartime (unprecedented in US history) when documented evidence of
> lack of troop supplies and equipment existed.  Ridiculous. 
>
> 6) Finally, many of us (81% and rising) feel the country is on the wrong
> track.  Nationalistic pride without any reflection on errors, is the
> hallmark of a "true-believer".  Time to grow up and realize that America can
> and does make mistakes and healthy reflection, criticism and correction are
> not only patriotic, but morally necessary. 
>
>
> Brad Haslett-2 wrote:
>   
>> Pete,
>>
>> You wrote, "I denounce that type of angry pulpit-banging white-bread
>> rhetoric."
>>
>> That's the second time you've used the expression "white-bread".  Exactly
>> what-the-hell is that phrase supposed to mean?  If it is supposed to be an
>> insult then you should be proud, it's working.  Please define it further
>> so
>> instead of thinking I might be torqued at your simple-mindedness I'll know
>> for sure.
>>
>> It is entirely possible that I'm a "loser" and if so, it was a choice.  If
>> I'm "white-bread" (whatever that means) I may be the victim of racism.
>>
>> Brad
>>
>> On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 9:43 AM, petelargo <petelauritzen at earthlink.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> Herb,
>>>
>>> Are your views and opinions so weak that you have to resort to personal
>>> name
>>> calling? I denounce that type of angry pulpit-banging white-bread
>>> rhetoric.
>>> The full truth is that the sign was the NAVY'S idea for that specific
>>> carrier's mission. HOWEVER, the White House was involved and DID actually
>>> have the sign made and had Bush positioned for maximum photo op. Any
>>> politician will jump in front of a parade. And Bush did say "that major
>>> combat operations were over in Iraq. In the battle of Iraq, the United
>>> States and our allies have prevailed." Bush's speech originally did have
>>> "mission accomplished" in it. Rumsfeld had that taken that out and it was
>>> semi-watered down to the above quote.
>>>
>>>
>>> hparsons wrote:
>>>       
>>>> Rob, you're pathetic. Bush did exactly what he said he did, and you
>>>>         
>>> want
>>>       
>>>> to berate him for that. You're a loser.
>>>>
>>>> Rob Lowe wrote:
>>>>         
>>>>> No smoke being blown by me of course, just by Bush.
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Brad Haslett" <flybrad at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 5:02 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] This day in history
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>> Rob,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I remember the moment well - watched it live during the afternoon
>>>>>>             
>>> launch
>>>       
>>>>>> with a bunch of Navy pilots and a substantial number of Air Force
>>>>>>             
>>> pilots
>>>       
>>>>>> commenting on how easy it must be to land on a target that's always
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>> pointed
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>> into the wind. First, as a pilot, Bush 43 proved his stripes flying a
>>>>>> most
>>>>>> difficult and unforgiving aircraft.  He earned his flight suit and
>>>>>> looked
>>>>>> good in it that day!  You may have a political point you want to
>>>>>>             
>>> score,
>>>       
>>>>>> so
>>>>>> be it.  Just don't blow smoke your asshole hasn't earned!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Brad
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 3:52 PM, Rob Lowe <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> Five years ago, today, President Bush declares victory in Iraq
>>>>>>>               
>>> aboard
>>>       
>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>> aircraft carrier bearing a victory banner.
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