[Rhodes22-list] This day in history
Herb Parsons
hparsons at parsonsys.com
Fri May 2 17:55:38 EDT 2008
Nope, you missed again.
But I DO want to make sure I understand YOU correctly.
You interpret my statement the way you wish (incorrectly, I might add),
then stand in amazement.
So, your thoughts amaze you.
I'm not surprised.
Michael D. Weisner wrote:
> Herb,
>
> I think that you are trying to make the following argument:
>
> If a statement about someone else (not a list member) offends you due to
> your beliefs, that makes the statement inconsiderate (of you) and should
> therefore be treated the same as an insult directed at a list member.
>
> Herb, you never cease to amaze me. I would have expected that kind of
> reasoning from some others but not you. Sorry, maybe I still misunderstand
> you.
>
> Mike
> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
> Nissequogue River, NY
>
> From: "Herb Parsons" <hparsons at parsonsys.com> Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008
> 4:41 PM
>
>> Sorry Michael. Maybe you misunderstood my reaction. I was offended.
>> Thus, the message about the President wasn't very "considerate". I agree
>> that criticism of the President has become a sport. One shouldn't play
>> unless they're ready to play.
>>
>> Michael D. Weisner wrote:
>>
>>> Herb,
>>>
>>> I agree with you that respect for the President (whether or not I voted
>>> for
>>> him) is required. Even if I disagree with his performance, actions, etc.
>>> he
>>> is THE PRESIDENT. Criticism of the President has become a "sport" in
>>> this
>>> country (just tune in to late night TV comedians) and is permitted by
>>> most
>>> of us as a freedom, whether you and I support it or not.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, the problem that you cite is not covered by the list
>>> charter.
>>> The charter states "Netiquette: Posts to the group are expected to be
>>> considerate of other readers." Unless POTUS is a member of this list,
>>> your
>>> objection is unfounded, while offending those who are members of "da
>>> list"
>>> is clearly forbidden.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
>>> Nissequogue River, NY
>>>
>>> From: "Herb Parsons" <hparsons at parsonsys.com>Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008
>>> 4:14
>>> PM
>>>
>>>
>>>> OK folks.Where the admonitions about "personal attacks." Some idiot gets
>>>> on here and calls the President of the Nation a "son of a bitch", and
>>>> that's OK. However, calling Robert a loser because of his pathetic
>>>> Bush-hating nonsense is somehow bad bad stuff.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> R22RumRunner at aol.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Rob,
>>>>>
>>>>> Not true. Many of us have questioned his military service, but have
>>>>> never
>>>>> been given the straight answers. It seems that privileged children live
>>>>> privileged lives, even in the military. Since it's already Friday and I
>>>>> have a ton
>>>>> of yard wok to do this weekend and won't be actively on the list, I
>>>>> will
>>>>> leave
>>>>> with this parting comment. Our current president is the dumbest son of
>>>>> a
>>>>> bitch that's ever taken the oath of office. History will back me up on
>>>>> this.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rummy
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In a message dated 5/2/2008 2:44:43 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>>>> rlowe at vt.edu
>>>>> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>> Nobody questioned his service, Herb.
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Herb Parsons" <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
>>>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 11:34 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] This day in history
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> And, I'll add, bitch all you want to about his politics. When you
>>>>>> insult
>>>>>> his service, you're being a jerk. THAT was what was pathetic.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Brad Haslett wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rob,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Herb's a big boy and can defend himself, so I'll let him. I too
>>>>>>> feel
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>> his
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> > frustrations at times though. The carrier landing was a
>>>>>> celebration
>>>>>> for
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> men and women who had been at sea for a good long while in support
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>> the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Iraqi liberation. They were honored to have been visited by their
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>> Commander
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> in Chief and it showed on their faces. President Bush didn't
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>> immediately
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> rush for the Admiral's quarters, he spent a lot of time with the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>> 'grunts'
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> > taking photos, hugging them, etc. It was obvious they loved having
>>>>>> him
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> aboard and watching it live made me proud to be an American. Was it
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> political event as well? Everything a politician does is a
>>>>>>> political
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>> event.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> > Today's newspaper is the first draft of history and often wrong in
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> reporting and analysis. Go read a newspaper from 1948 to 1952 and
>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>> how
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> popular Truman was at the time. Some people are so jaded by their
>>>>>>> BDS
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>> (Bush
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Derangement Syndrome) that they can't see anything positive in
>>>>>>> anything.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>> You
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> are probably a classic case. Bush's term is almost over and it
>>>>>>> might
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> time for everyone to move on to tomorrow's problems.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Let me say this - when I think critics are taking delight in the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>> difficulty
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> and losses our military is encountering because it suits their
>>>>>>> political
>>>>>>> slant, it pisses me off to no end. Frankly, I don't think we should
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> engaged in 2/3rds of the deployments we did under Clinton, and I
>>>>>>> didn't
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>> and
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> still don't like the Clintons. That said, I want to see any
>>>>>>> engagement
>>>>>>> where we put our troops in harm's way to go well regardless of how I
>>>>>>> may
>>>>>>> personally feel about the commander. My guess is, Herb gets upset
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>> the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> same reasons I do. Bitch about Bush is you want, it's a free
>>>>>>> country.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>> The
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> men and women on that boat that day risked their lives so you can do
>>>>>>> so.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Brad
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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