[Rhodes22-list] This day in history
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Sat May 3 14:03:49 EDT 2008
Elle,
Lighten up girl. Sounds to me like you could use a couple of my rum and
cokes. Besides, it's Saturday and everybody knows that means more free time for
drinking and sailing.
Rummy
In a message dated 5/3/2008 11:49:50 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
watermusic38 at yahoo.com writes:
Herb,
>I pretty regularly see all sort of rudeness on here, and of late, it seems t
hat those of a >certain political persuasion are the ones that are asked to
turn peacemakers.
Yes, that appears to be true....but someone has to be first to stop....and
there's a lot to be said for the reasoned individual who sees the need to put
an end to the discussion.
It's hard....everyone wants to have the last word...(don't I know...;^)
elle
Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com> wrote:
I do hope you'll allow me to respectfully disagree with your
vision/view. I pretty regularly see all sort of rudeness on here, and of
late, it seems that those of a certain political persuasion are the ones
that are asked to turn peacemakers.
In this case, the discussion never hit the "information" point, and
while I agree that I won't likely change anyone's mind about the main
topic (c'mon, few, if any, of these discussions ever do that), I would
like to think that there might be at least one or two folks out there
that read the discussions and think "Maybe calling ANYONE I don't know a
'dumb son of a bitch" is a bit over the line".
elle wrote:
> Herb,
>
> What I meant is that the discussion is past the 'information' point. You
are not changing anyone's mind & they are not going to change yours.
>
> So any more discussion is a waste of time since y'all will just continue
to argue..
>
> I enjoy these discussions (usually) because of the divergent points of
view and the (usually) intelligent discourse. But this discussion is past that
point.
>
> I don't know you, have never seen you, but what I see in my mind is you
holding one of the other Rhodies who disagrees with you up against a wall with
your arm against his throat. I don't believe this is a true depiction of you
but that is the image this discussion has presented.
>
> Perhaps we forget to remember that we are Rhodies-compatriots first; these
discussions just fill in the blanks until we can all get back on the water.
>
> 'Pace,'...please.
>
> elle
>
>
>
>
>
> Herb Parsons wrote:
> You know elle, I'm convinced that one of the current ills of society are
> because no one has the guts to say something that's "against the
> majority". I'd say that this list is pretty much left-leaning.
>
> Rummy calls the president "dumb", and a "son of a bitch", and that's OK.
>
> I call him on it, and I should "give it a rest"
>
> Ed is regularly called all sorts of rude names on here, and that's cool
> (because so many think he's rude)
>
> I see a rude statement about the President, and give back what he's
> giving, and I'm chastised.
>
> A certain unnamed user cries foul for being accused of promoting
> socialist programs, when he talks about supporting socialist programs,
> and we are asked to not do that anymore, since he obviously finds it
> offensive (which, btw, I've done to this point),
>
> But then that same user regularly gets on her and makes snide comments
> about me, and often to me, and it's ignored.
>
> Frankly, I think a bunch of you guys are hypocrites. But that's OK, it
> still makes for interesting reading.
>
> I'm anxious to see if/when one of the lefties on say "Hey, that's a
> little over the top" when someone accuses a Harvard MBA and two term
> president of being a "dumb son of a bitch".
>
> When I DON'T see that happen, I'm going to guess it's OK to determine
> that it probably came from some ignorant hick, especially when it goes
> largely unsubstantiated beyond "becuase I said so".
>
>
> elle wrote:
>
>> Do ya think ya can give it a rest?
>>
>> 'Nytol...'
>>
>> elle
>> --- Herb Parsons wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> I'm sure that the quantity has ensured that. Betcha
>>> that the President
>>> could say the same.
>>>
>>> But you didn't answer either question, you simply
>>> side-stepped them.
>>>
>>> Would insulting your mother break those rules that
>>> you talk about?
>>> Where does one draw the line?
>>> If I say there's no doubt in my mind that President
>>> Bush, who was smart
>>> enough to get a Masters from Harvard, is smarter
>>> than you - HAVE I
>>> insulted you, and does that break protocol?
>>>
>>> I suspect it's much easier to talk about the "dumb"
>>> "son of a bitch"
>>> than it is to actually show how you're better.
>>>
>>> R22RumRunner at aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Herb,
>>>> I've been insulted by better people than you. Keep
>>>>
>>>>
>>> trying as you will, this
>>>
>>>
>>>> president is a joke.
>>>>
>>>> Rummy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In a message dated 5/2/2008 10:06:25 P.M. Eastern
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Daylight Time,
>>>
>>>
>>>> hparsons at parsonsys.com writes:
>>>>
>>>> As I mentioned to another member, does that mean
>>>>
>>>>
>>> insulting your mother
>>>
>>>
>>>> is OK as well? Where do you draw the line Rummy?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> And, if I say there's
>>>
>>>
>>>> no doubt in my mind that that President George W
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Bush, who was "smart
>>>
>>>
>>>> enough" to get a Masters in Business
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Administration from Harvard
>>>
>>>
>>>> Business school, is undoubtedly smarter than you,
>>>>
>>>>
>>> does that mean I've
>>>
>>>
>>>> broken protocol by insulting you?
>>>>
>>>> Oh well, too bad.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> R22RumRunner at aol.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Herb,
>>>>> The last time I checked, Bush was not a member of
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> this list, so calling
>>>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>> him
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> a son of a bitch is acceptable.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rummy
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In a message dated 5/2/2008 4:15:44 P.M. Eastern
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> Daylight Time,
>>>
>>>
>>>>> hparsons at parsonsys.com writes:
>>>>>
>>>>> OK folks.Where the admonitions about "personal
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> attacks." Some idiot gets
>>>
>>>
>>>>> on here and calls the President of the Nation a
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> "son of a bitch", and
>>>
>>>
>>>>> that's OK. However, calling Robert a loser
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> because of his pathetic
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Bush-hating nonsense is somehow bad bad stuff.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> R22RumRunner at aol.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Rob,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not true. Many of us have questioned his
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>> military service, but have
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>> never
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> been given the straight answers. It seems that
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>> privileged children live
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> privileged lives, even in the military. Since
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>> it's already Friday and I
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> have a ton
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> of yard wok to do this weekend and won't be
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>> actively on the list, I will
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> leave
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> with this parting comment. Our current
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>> president is the dumbest son of a
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> bitch that's ever taken the oath of office.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>> History will back me up on
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> this.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Rummy
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In a message dated 5/2/2008 2:44:43 P.M.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>> Eastern Daylight Time,
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> rlowe at vt.edu
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nobody questioned his service, Herb.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Herb Parsons"
>>>>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 11:34 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] This day in
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>> history
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And, I'll add, bitch all you want to about
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>> his politics. When you
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>> insult
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> his service, you're being a jerk. THAT was
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>> what was pathetic.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>> Brad Haslett wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Rob,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Herb's a big boy and can defend himself, so
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>> I'll let him. I too
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>> feel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> his
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> frustrations at times though. The carrier
>>>>>>>>
>>> landing was a celebration
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>> for
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> men and women who had been at sea for a good
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>> long while in support of
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Iraqi liberation. They were honored to have
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>> been visited by their
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Commander
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> in Chief and it showed on their faces.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>> President Bush didn't
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> immediately
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> rush for the Admiral's quarters, he spent a
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>> lot of time with the
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> 'grunts'
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> taking photos, hugging them, etc. It was
>>>>>>>>
>>> obvious they loved having
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>> him
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> aboard and watching it live made me proud to
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>> be an American. Was it
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>> a
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>> political event as well? Everything a
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>> politician does is a political
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> event.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Today's newspaper is the first draft of
>>>>>>>>
>>> history and often wrong in
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>> the
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> reporting and analysis. Go read a newspaper
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>> from 1948 to 1952 and
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>> see
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> how
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> popular Truman was at the time. Some
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>> people are so jaded by their
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>> BDS
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> (Bush
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Derangement Syndrome) that they can't see
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>> anything positive in
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>> anything.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> You
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> are probably a classic case. Bush's term
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>> is almost over and it might
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>> be
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> time for everyone to move on to tomorrow's
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>> problems.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Let me say this - when I think critics are
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>> taking delight in the
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> difficulty
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and losses our military is encountering
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>> because it suits their
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>> political
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> slant, it pisses me off to no end. Frankly,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>> I don't think we should
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>> have
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>> engaged in 2/3rds of the deployments we did
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>> under Clinton, and I
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>> didn't
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> still don't like the Clintons. That said,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>> I want to see any
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>> engagement
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>> where we put our troops in harm's way to go
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>> well regardless of how I
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>> may
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> personally feel about the commander. My
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>> guess is, Herb gets upset
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>> for
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> same reasons I do. Bitch about Bush is you
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>> want, it's a free
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>> country.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> The
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> men and women on that boat that day risked
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>> their lives so you can do
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>> so.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>> Brad
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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