[Rhodes22-list] motors

R22RumRunner at aol.com R22RumRunner at aol.com
Thu May 29 08:30:14 EDT 2008


Tom,
Keep in mind that all sailboats have a "design speed" built into them. I  
sail on an inland lake and never crack the throttle on my Tohatsu 8hp motor more  
than 2/3rds. That's where I reach the design speed and it's also the most  
efficient speed for the motor. My manual says it burns one gallon an hour at  
full throttle. If I can travel six miles an hour, my six gallon tank gives me  
(in theory) a motoring distance of about 36 miles. 
 
Rummy
 
 
In a message dated 5/29/2008 6:36:32 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
tjhogarty at gmail.com writes:


Mary  Lou,
Thanks, I will keep the ease of flushing the motor in mind when I  buy.  Was
your old 8 a 4 stroke?  Was it high thrust?  If  the 9.9 and the 8 have the
same weight, why not buy the most  powerful?  Is part of the answer related
to inefficiency at low rpm,  ie., if a stronger engine will get to hull speed
at lower rpm, will long  runs at low rpm harm the engine?  In my landlubber's
imagination, I  think a big motor will save my ass some day.  As I get used
to  sailing, I am learning that sailing is probalbly safer than motoring, but
I  do want the ability to cruise long distances, maybe 20-30  windless  miles
with a reliable motor.
Thanks,
Tom Hogarty, boat still on  trailer


Mary Lou Troy-2 wrote:
> 
> Tom,
> If you  are going to be leaving the boat in the water, one thing to 
> consider  is how easy it is to flush the motor with the boat in the 
> water. We  recently had to replace our 10 year old Honda which died 
> from  saltwater corrosion in the cooling water passages. There was no 
> way  to easily flush the motor. Newer Hondas have a more accessible 
>  flushing mechanism as do the Yamahas which is what we ended uo with 
>  (8 hp high thrust). Too soon to tell you how we like it compared to 
>  the Honda. We looked at a Mercury that was not easily flushed. I've 
>  heard but couldn't verify that the clearance in the cooling passages 
>  in the Merc are larger than in the Honda so this may not be a 
>  problem. We didn't want to chance it.
> 
> We've found that 8 hp  seems to be more than enough for any conditions 
> you might want to be  out in. The old 8 horse Honda pushed us through 
> some strong currents,  high winds and good sized waves on the nose. We 
> could motor easily at  hull speed in milder conditions.
> 
> Mary Lou
> 1991 R22  Fretless
> Finally in the water in Rock Hall, MD
> 
> At  11:16 PM 5/27/2008, you wrote:
> 
>>Rob,
>>I plan to  sail the Chesapeake and am just mulling over the purchase of a
>>high  thrust outboard, certainly a 4  stroke.
>>Tom
>>
>>
>>
>>Rob Lowe  wrote:
>> >
>> > Tom,
>> > Where are you  sailing?  I sail an inland lake and my standard 8hp 4
>>  stroke
>> > has more than enough power.  I rarely run it over  1/2 throttle.  Those
>> on
>> > the coast might  recommend something different.  In fact, I suspect a
>>  6hp
>> > would suit my needs.  At one time there was a big 2  vs. 4 stroke debate
>> > amongst the members, but if you are  considering a new motor, about all
>> you
>> > can find  is a 4 stroke unless you are looking at discontinued models. 
>>  -
>> > rob
>> >
>> >
>> >  ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Tom Hogarty"  <hogarty at vcn.com>
>> > To:  <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> > Sent: Tuesday, May 27,  2008 5:24 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Politics: Obama is  a Crook!
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>>  >> I am also considering a new outboard.  Are the high thrust  models, 8
>> or 9
>> > hp
>> >> ok?   When not specified, I assume you are talking about 4 cycles.
>>  >> Tom Hogarty
>> >>
>> >>
>>  >>
>> >> Arthur H. Czerwonky wrote:
>> >>  >
>> >> > Bill,
>> >> > No reflection  on the Merc 9.9, but I have found, as others, that the
>> >>  > Tohatsu 8 is one excellent choice for the R22.  You might give  it
>> some
>> >> > thought.  I have no idea on  costing, but Ron Singerman is using a
>> 9.8
>> >>  on
>> >> > his new boat.
>> >> >  Art
>> >> >
>> >> > -----Original  Message-----
>> >> >>From: bdunn1  <bdunn1 at aol.com>
>> >> >>Sent: May 27, 2008 11:40  AM
>> >> >>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list  <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>,
>> >>  rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>> >> >>Subject: Re:  [Rhodes22-list] Politics:  Obama is a Crook!
>> >>  >>
>> >> >>Rummy: Need your advice; my 8 hp Yamaha  on my 98 Rhodes bit the
>> dust; I
>> >> am  considering a 9.9 Mercury 4-cycle. When I bought the boat used it
>>  had
>> >> the remote controls and the motor connected to the  rudder for
>> steering.
>> >> Question: Can I use the  Mercury with the standard "all the controls in
>> >>  one
>> >> handle", not connect it to the rudder and steer into  and out of the
>> dock
>> >> with the rudder in the  upright position using the motor to steer?
>> There
>>  >> will be some conflict with the railing but I thought by tilting  the
>> > control
>> >> it would be ok.
>>  >> >>regards,
>> >> >>Bill Dunn
>>  >> >>On May 27, 2008, at 10:20:26 AM, R22RumRunner at aol.com  wrote:
>> >> >>From:    R22RumRunner at aol.com
>> >> >>Subject:    Re:  [Rhodes22-list] Politics: Obama is a Crook!
>> >>  >>Date:   May 27, 2008 10:20:26 AM EDT
>> >>  >>To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>> >> >>Nope, not  a thing. Same crap, different day. You know, politics and
>> >>  some
>> >> >>sailing stuff thrown in for good  measure.
>> >> >>
>> >>  >>Rummy
>> >> >>
>> >>  >>
>> >> >>In a message dated 5/27/2008 10:13:38  A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>> >> >>bill at effros.com  writes:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Have I  missed anything?
>> >> >>
>> >>  >>Bill Effros
>> >> >>s/v Little  Queenie
>> >> >>Greenwich, CT
>> >>  >>
>> >> >>
>> >>  >>
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