[Rhodes22-list] Politics - It Will Bankrupt polluters!

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Thank you Robert. Excellent post. Not nearly as much fun as calling Brad a 'a
rude self-impressed little man with an aggrandized view of his own
importance', but that's really another vote for another day. And hey, try to
jump in a little sooner when I am on the ground getting free kicked. PS: it
doesn't matter what you think you are politically; on this list you are now
officially a terrorist supporting, lefty commie bastard. Sorry to break it
to you. Have a nice day.


Robert J. Nickerson wrote:
> 
> Sigh....  I guess I must break my vow to myself to not stick my toe in
> this 
> political quagmire.
> 
> First a small bio - I am a medal winning veteran, ivy league educated 
> retired systems analyst (banking), owner of a GB modified Starwind 19 with
> a 
> Rhodes 22 in mast main purchased from Stan, and considered by most of my 
> friends to be a conservative.  I took the political test and showed scored 
> as a moderate fiscal conservative and a moderate social liberal.  I hate 
> party labels but if I was pressed I can best stomach being called a 
> libertarian.  I have voted in every presidential election but either
> against 
> a candidate or writing in someone (one election I wrote in Colin Powell
> for 
> president).
> 
> I will make six points and disappear again.
> 
> 1.  I will defend anyone's right to vote, promote, proselytize and work
> for, 
> and donate to any candidate they wish.  I do not defend the right to 
> innuendo, falsehoods, scare tactics, and guilt by association.
> 
> 2. As a system analyst I had intimate knowledge of credit and debit 
> authorization systems.  Visa, MasterCard, AMEX, and Discover all have 
> various levels of fees for their services depending on the level of 
> validation that is done at the time of information collected.  What the 
> Obama site is doing is not illegal.  What you testers are doing by
> inputting 
> false information most likely is illegal.
> 
> 3.  Brad, you keep hammering on the withheld video tape of Obama at the
> 2003 
> party for the Palestine-American Columbia University professor Rashid 
> Khalidi.  Perhaps you should also note that the Center for Palestine 
> Research and Studies that Rashid Khalidi helped found received at least 
> $448,000.00 from an organization who has John McCain as a chairman.  I
> leave 
> the reader to decide which is more relevant.
> 
> 4.  This latest youtube (no video is telling) is out of context as usual. 
> The full context shows that the statement was about the fact that there
> was 
> no need to pass laws forcing emission standards or carbon sequestration 
> standards because if a coal plant was built without them, it would
> bankrupt 
> itself if the cap and trade was in place.
> 
> 5.  To me, a microcosm of the election is the analysis of Iran.  Obama
> says 
> he would sit down with leaders with no preconditions.  McCain and Palin 
> laugh at this though it is a recommendation of many world leaders and 
> bipartisan think tanks.
> Palin sneers at sitting down with President Ahmadinejad of Iran.  Obama 
> correctly notes that the president is not the ultimate leader of Iran but 
> more of a figurehead; he would sit down with the Supreme Leader Ali 
> Khamene'i.  I would also note the success of the "surge" in Iraq owes much 
> to the Anbar Awakening alliance with Sunni tribal sheiks.
> 
> 6.  This is opinion: Obama is the first candidate of a major party I will 
> actively vote for.  I feel McCain is past his prime and careful
> examination 
> of his speech patterns indicate beginnings of mental decline.  I would 
> prefer that no one with a temper like his be anywhere near the "button". 
> Please note if Hilary was the nominee I would have been forced to vote for 
> McCain against her.
> My take is that the way the Obama campaign has been organized and run is
> the 
> best indication of his organizational skills and intelligence.  I also
> have 
> enough belief in the inherent honesty and goodness of most people that if 
> there was the vast socialist, communist,  Islamic, left wing conspiracy
> that 
> the McCain supporters postulate it would truly have surfaced.  The law of 
> Occam's razor applies.
> 
> If I wanted to do innuendo I would ask this:  how do we know that McCain 
> isn't a Manchurian candidate?  Was he brainwashed in a communist prison? 
> No, I don't believe this, but that accusation is about as probable as most 
> of those leveled against Obama.
> 
> All right, have at me.  I return to lurking as I seem to have much less
> free 
> time than most of the serial posters here even though I am retired.  By
> the 
> way, I have never searched youtube or other sites at all, much less with
> the 
> frequency demonstrated here.
> 
> Final note - I am aware that the mainstream media has its own agenda.  I
> am 
> also aware of incidents and associations in McCain's past that have been 
> made available to the public that have not been exploited by the MSM or
> the 
> democratic party that to me are equal to those that the republicans are 
> excoriating Obama for.  To me, they almost all are irrelevant.
> 
> I am sorry to have violated my promise to myself not to post, but will 
> assure you this is the last before the election.  I truly believe that 
> electing Obama has a chance to restore the United States diplomatic status 
> and moral authority in much of the world.
> 
> Robert J. Nickerson
> Colchester, Vermont
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Brad Haslett" <flybrad at gmail.com>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 8:50 AM
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Politics - It Will Bankrupt Them!
> 
> 
>> Listen to this - (just released so the MSM hasn't digested it yet)
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hdi4onAQBWQ
>>
>> Folks, you don't have to be a genius to figure out how dangerous this
>> philosophy is as economic and energy policy.  Are we supposed to go
>> back to using whale oil or are we going to build nukes?  This guy is
>> clueless.
>>
>> Something tells me the party leadership in China is laughing their
>> asses off about now.
>>
>> Brad
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