[Rhodes22-list] Politics & Economics
Herb Parsons
hparsons at parsonsys.com
Thu Nov 13 00:50:06 EST 2008
Didn't see it, except in Brad's post. Don't particularly need to. You
think I'm a bigot and a racist. You based that on MY OBSERVATIONS OF
OTHERS. So, I think you're an idiot and an ignoramus. You know virtually
nothing about about me, and yet have come up with your ridiculous (and
false) determination.
Why do I need to know more?
David Bradley wrote:
> Herb, I gave you my explanation last night. If you didn't see it I
> can send it again.
>
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> On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 12:38 PM, Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com> wrote:
>
>> Yeah, my apologies. I sort of caught that on the next post I did.
>>
>> You know, my "disdain" is for the societal response, not to any
>> particular individual. I know that's sometimes hard for folks to grasp,
>> but here's an example.
>>
>> I think we would all agree that if 95% (or 96%, whichever is the case)
>> of all black people voted for the black candidate, there is little doubt
>> that race was involved.
>>
>> However, can I say person A voted for Barak because of race? No, not
>> based on the information given. There is little doubt that race was
>> involved overall, but there is LOTS of room for doubt about the
>> motivations of any particular individual.
>>
>> By the same token, I'd say that if 55% of the white people voted for
>> McCain, and what was the final number 47% of the overall populace voted
>> for him, then there was also likely some racism involved. Probably
>> less, because 45% voted for Barak, but the numbers seem to indicate that
>> there was some level of racism.
>>
>> However, that doesn't mean that I voting for McCain, or Brad, or anyone
>> else, means they did so for racist reasons.
>>
>> Yet there were those, both on here and in the general population, that
>> insisted that anyone supporting McCain was doing so out of bigotry and
>> racism. That was my point.
>>
>> Alan Keyes, when he ran against Barak in Illinois, was pilloried, and
>> was indeed called "not really black."
>> More widespread (I'm sure because he was better known), when Colin
>> Powell supported President Bush, he was called an Uncle Tom (as was
>> Condi Rice, who has my wholehearted support - wouldn't a Rice/Palin
>> ticket have been interesting??, I'd have voted for them!!).
>>
>> These things may be ignored, but they cannot be honestly denied.
>>
>> And then, an idiot ignorant fool like David comes along, and calls me a
>> bigot and a racist, with no explanation as to why.
>>
>> Not only was there no explanation, he doesn't know what he's talking
>> about, but that's the true hallmark of someone that's ignorant.
>>
>> The idiocy part comes when they refuse to recognize their ignorance.
>>
>> And, unfortunately, I HAVEN'T been sailing in a while, about 3 weeks.
>> However, we'll be on the lake this weekend.
>>
>>
>> Andrew Collins wrote:
>>
>>> Herb
>>>
>>> The disdain comment came from John, not me. There does seem to be a grain of
>>> truth in it, though.
>>>
>>> My comment to Brad was that the race card in this post, or string,
>>> originated in your comments on the election, which concentrated on the race
>>> issue and the perception of it by diffferent sectors in society.
>>> As to who thrust what on whom, I bow out, er back out, er, can't seem to get
>>> out no matter what I write, during the pre-election fervor, I do not know ,
>>> not do I care. THIS post brought it up.
>>>
>>> I find the race card passe' as the real issue on the table for me and my
>>> family and my business is the behaviour of the free market socialists who
>>> are reaching into our pockets. I vote 'shoot Hank Paulson while Bernanke
>>> watches'.
>>>
>>> Been sailing much lately?
>>>
>>> Andrew
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 2:51 PM, Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Andrew,
>>>>
>>>> I said nothing about disdain for anyone. I simply posted my views.
>>>>
>>>> However, for posting my views, I was called a racist and a bigot.
>>>>
>>>> For the record, I didn't bring up the race issue, It was thrust in front
>>>> of me constantly during this election, including watching the returns on
>>>> election night.
>>>>
>>>> The way I presented my views may indeed have been provocative, and I
>>>> WELCOME responses (that's the whole idea of a discussion); however, I
>>>> called no one names, nor did I do anything I thought deserving of the
>>>> response I got.
>>>>
>>>> In short, David's full of shit.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> John Shulick wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I believe that Herb brought up the race issue here, not David. The way
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Herb
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> presented his observation was provocative, and it provoked a response.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Both
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Herb and Dave have to live with that. My specific point is that the
>>>>> directive to 'give it a rest' should really be for the two of them.
>>>>>
>>>>> Andrew,
>>>>>
>>>>> Trying to get it to stop is like trying to stop the tide. Herb Ed and
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> god
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> have made it very clear that they have no intentions of ever relenting on
>>>>> their constant posts espousing there views and their distain for anyone
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> who
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> dosen't agree. I wonder, does Ed own that O day 26?? It would be ironic
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> that
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> the most vocal people on the Rhodes 22 site don't own the boat.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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