[Rhodes22-list] sailing reply to Andrew...

[Andrew Collins]

Herb

The O'Day. The question is actually 2-fold - I wanted to know if anyone has
experience with roller boom furlers, and what will happen to the R22 IMF
once the supply of IMF masts runs out, as Tootle said the extrusion die has
been lost or sold.

Andrew

On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 6:21 PM, Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com>wrote:

> Are you asking about a boom furler on the O'Day, or a Rhodes 22?
>
> I don't think I've ever seen a mainsail furler on an O'Day 25 or 26. The
> boats originally came with a jiffy reef system that is pretty easy to
> use. I've reefed mine in some pretty nasty weather.
>
>
> Andrew Collins wrote:
> > Ed
> >
> > Thanks. My curiosity is piqued, and I will be researching that model boat
> > more. Do you think a boom furler could be attached?
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 3:38 PM, Tootle <ekroposki at charter.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> The Rhodes 22 and O'Day 26 are only similar in the stubby keel and swing
> >> centerboard.
> >>
> >> The IMF spoils you in regards to sails.  A boat with IMF and furling
> >> foresail has infinitely adjustable combinations for varying wind
> >> conditions.
> >> This gives the R22 with IMF and furling foresail easily adjustable for
> >> conditions.
> >>
> >> The O'Day 26 is a standard mast mainsail.  And because of the design of
> the
> >> boat the main is specifically designed for this boat.  It has a big
> roach
> >> main sail.  The mainsail is unique, at least to me.
> >>
> >> I learned to sail on a standard mast mainsail boat.  Its shape was not
> like
> >> the main that I got with the 26. The mainsail is different from a
> standard
> >> main Rhodes 22.  The main on the 26 does not look like the main of Bob
> >> Weber's boat in the picture on his web site.
> >>
> >> The shape of the bow is also very specific. C. Raymond Hunt a boat
> >> designer,
> >> who worked out of Boston, was the equal of Phil Rhodes.  Hunt even got a
> >> patent on the shape of his bow.  It is supposed to be very efficient in
> >> slicing thru water.  The angle is very specific.
> >>
> >> Hunt has followed Rhodes to designing in the way beyond, but his company
> >> still exists.  The current president must be Stan's age.  His name is
> John
> >> Deknatel.  But to make you happy, he is a MIT grad.  He is a virtually
> an
> >> unknown design name because all his works came as designed by C. Raymond
> >> Hunt Associates.
> >>
> >> Hunt was no longer a sailboat designer when the 26 was designed.  In
> fact,
> >> Deknatel probably designed the 25.  The 26 has a history.  It is a
> >> refinement of the O'Day 25 which was built for about 10 years.  Like
> Stan
> >> and the Rhodes 22 there was constant refinement of the 25.
> >>
> >> The 26 made a couple of sailing performance changes even though it was
> >> stated to be a cosmetic modernization.  The stubby keel is at least 3
> >> inches
> >> deeper on the 26 which improves its sailing performance.  The keel may
> also
> >> be a little longer.  And there where other handling design changes.
> >>
> >> What I am saying is the O'Day 26 design is more performance directed
> than
> >> the R22.  Raymond Hunt had a son who raced sailboats, that is Jim Hunt.
> >>  Jim
> >> Hunt was for a time President of O'Day sailboats.  So the performance
> >> influence is noticeable.
> >>
> >> I did not get the boat because of what I have said above.  I got it as a
> >> project boat to fix up.  Trying to find information on the boat, I came
> up
> >> the above history.
> >>
> >> My wife usually sleeps while I do the sailing.  The 26 has berth/settees
> on
> >> both sides of the cabin.  So she likes that feature.  The boat weighs
> about
> >> a ton more than the R22, so the ballast effect is noticeable.
> >>
> >> On the Rhodes 22, we generally sit toward the back of the cockpit.  This
> >> boat is designed that the place to sail it is forward in the cockpit.
>  The
> >> traveler is forward of the cockpit near the companionway.  I use the
> >> traveler much more than on the R22.
> >>
> >> In response to your question, they are quite different even though both
> >> have
> >> stubby keels with swing centerboards.
> >>
> >> Stan suggested that I put a R22 IMF mast on it, but the amount of sail
> >> would
> >> be reduced too much.  The boom on this thing is 10' 8' long and you
> cannot
> >> roll that much sail into the R22 IMF.  Elle's picture of the Skipjacks
> >> shows
> >> a long boomed sailboat.
> >>
> >> BTW, my R22 is currently in my backyard.  Getting it there is a major
> >> project.
> >>
> >> Ed K
> >>
> >>
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> >>
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