[Rhodes22-list] Complaint to List Admin

Andrew Collins sailingvesselcarmen at gmail.com
Thu Nov 13 12:47:03 EST 2008 

god

I thought he would be a #6 rubber washer?

andrew



On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 11:32 AM, Brad Haslett <flybrad at gmail.com> wrote:

> Rummy,
>
> You're an a-hole!
>
> Brad
>
> PS - Good work, dude!
>
> On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 10:27 AM,  <R22RumRunner at aol.com> wrote:
> > Ben C.,
> > The real question we want answered is whether or not you follow the
> > ambulance to the hospital?
> >
> > Rummy
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 11/13/2008 11:24:31 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> > bcittadino at dcs-law.com writes:
> >
> >
> > Folks;
> >
> > Please put me on the side of the ledger of those who  DO NOT want to Herb
> > removed from the list.
> >
> > Having joined the list  only this past summer in anticipation of taking
> > delivery of my very  first  R22 I must say that my exposure to Herb has
> been
> > brief, but  intense.
> >
> > I won't go into a big song and dance about my reasons except  to say that
> as
> > much as I wish it were not so, I still find it practically  impossible to
> > drive past a horrible wreck on the interstate without slowing  a little
> to
> > take a peek. God forgive me.
> >
> > Best wishes to all  (especially to Herb);
> >
> > Ben C.
> >
> >
> >
> > hparsons wrote:
> >>
> >> Michael,
> >>
> >> I was actually going to sit by and watch  these without response, but
> you
> >> mused on one thing that I think  merits a response:
> >>
> >> =====
> >> It is for this reason that I  will not place a filter on Herb's traffic,
> >> although others are free  to do so (Herb has even volunteered to help
> >> these people set up such  as filter, although his motivation for such an
> >> offer of help eludes  me.)
> >> =====
> >>
> >> I volunteered to do so because I was  calling their bluff. I do not
> >> believe for an instant that those that  are complaining loudly really
> >> want to simply ignore my posts. Were  that true, the whole thing would
> be
> >> simple enough, the technology  exists for them to completely ignore
> them.
> >> My offer removes the "I  don't know how to do it" excuse.
> >>
> >> Brad touched on this, and  actually expressed my views to just about to
> a
> >> T. Most of those that  really just don't want to be bothered with my
> >> posts do what I do with  the ones I don't particularly want to be
> >> bothered with. They just  ignore/delete them. However, there are a group
> >> of folks on here that  want to be free to spew THEIR vitriol without
> >> response. That's what's  "wrong and selfish".
> >>
> >> And yes Slim, when you say that anyone  that believes in God, or has
> >> religious convictions, is a religious  kook, that's vitriol. That's
> >> baiting. That's being a troll. Make use  of that mirror that Brad spoke
> of.
> >>
> >> I've never attacked anyone  on here, or anyone else, for not believing
> >> the way I do. I resent  having my views treated that way, and will
> >> respond  accordingly.
> >>
> >> So, again to summarize, the reason I offer to  help folks is to point
> out
> >> the hypocrisy of their statements that  they simply don't want to see my
> >> messages. The truth is, they don't  want anyone to see my messages. They
> >> want to be free to have one side  expressed, and only one side.
> >>
> >> Slim's latest attempt is  further evidence of that.
> >>
> >>
> >> Michael D. Weisner  wrote:
> >>> Although I have been annoyed by Herb's actions at times, I  cannot and
> >>> would
> >>> not support such an action.   Steve (Slim), I think that you have
> >>> overreacted
> >>> to  Herb's recent activity.  This forum provides a method of dealing
> with
> >>> this kind of behavior through discussion without resorting  to
> >>> administrative
> >>> censure.
> >>>
> >>>  Yes, Herb does bully and annoy people, but do we want participants to
>  be
> >>> so
> >>> afraid of administrative removal that we do not  say what is important
> and
> >>> on
> >>> our minds?  This is  what the world is like and our sailor's bar is but
> a
> >>> small sample  of the world.  I appreciate Herb's intelligence (when he
> >>> does
> >>> not just shoot the messenger for the heck of it) and those pearls  that
> he
> >>> occasionally publishes such as his friend's blog and  sailing
> adventures.
> >>> To
> >>> remove such a person is to  lessen the experience of life.  It is for
> this
> >>> reason that I  will not place a filter on Herb's traffic, although
> others
> >>> are
> >>> free to do so (Herb has even volunteered to help these people set  up
> such
> >>> as
> >>> filter, although his motivation for such  an offer of help eludes me.)
> >>>
> >>> I think (statement of  opinion, Herb) that we can deal with the
> situation
> >>> as
> >>>  a community, expressing personal beliefs and such, as long as the
> >>>  discussion
> >>> does not become a slugfest or personal attack.  I  would ask that Herb
> >>> think
> >>> a bit longer before  responding, lest he respond only to achieve the
> last
> >>> word.   Others are free to advise that they would not like to hear from
> >>>  Herb.
> >>> Hopefully, through this exchange, we will seek a new level  of
> discussion,
> >>> appropriate to most who contribute to "da  list."  Those who are
> unhappy
> >>> with
> >>> the traffic  as being "not about sailing a Rhodes 22" or too caustic
> >>> subject
> >>> matter are free to start their own list.
> >>>
> >>>  Mike
> >>> s/v Shanghaid'd Summer ('81)
> >>>       Nissequogue River, NY
> >>>
> >>> From: "Steven Alm"  <stevenalm at gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, November 13,
> >>> 2008
> >>> 3:36 AM
> >>>
> >>>> To JLo and  MJM,
> >>>>
> >>>> We have a troll on our list that has been  causing problems and
> >>>> instilling
> >>>> hatred and  posting foul diatribes for months now.  He has caused many
>  to
> >>>> filter him out and/or delete his posts in disgust.  I,  myself have
> >>>> received
> >>>> numerous back-channel  messages complaining about him and his rude and
> >>>> inappropriate  posts.  This should come to a halt.  As a member of
> this
> >>>> fine
> >>>> community of Rhodes owners for some 8 or  9 years, I've seen only one
> >>>> other
> >>>> member who  has shown such a disrespect for others here on the Rhodes
> >>>>  list.
> >>>> That individual was ultimately relieved of his status  here and
> >>>> thankfully
> >>>> is
> >>>> no  longer a member.  I recommend that this troll be sanctioned and no
> >>>> longer
> >>>> be allowed to participate in our  otherwise polite and courteous
> exchange
> >>>> of
> >>>>  sailing and/or other topics.  He has disrupted our list for too long
> and
> >
> >>>> has
> >>>> caused too many arguments for the rest of  us to be comfortable with
> >>>> posting
> >>>> our usual  thoughts on any given topic without being lambasted with
> his
> >>>>  vitriol.  He continues to insult anyone and everyone who disagrees
> with
> >>>> his
> >>>> positions and in doing so has created an  environment of hostility
> that
> >>>> has
> >>>> made the  Rhodes list a den of venom.  I'm referring to Herb Parsons.
>  I
> >>>> ask
> >>>> that you consider removing him from our  group.  He contributes little
> >>>> other
> >>>> than  arguments and stifles many from contributing to this wonderful
> >>>>  forum.
> >>>> I want him out!
> >>>>
> >>>> Steve  Alm  aka  "Slim"
> >>>>  __________________________________________________
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> to
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> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
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> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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