[Rhodes22-list] Political - Palin, Obama
Robert Skinner
Robert at SquirrelHaven.com
Wed Nov 19 20:51:14 EST 2008
When it comes to mandates, he has done
a lot better than his predecessor.
There are undeniable advantages to verbal
skills when communicating -- a talent
conspicuous in its absence in Bush.
As to Reagan, at least he could string a
few words together without tripping on
his tongue -- that was my point. It
served him well in negotiations.
/Robert
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Herb Parsons wrote:
> You DO understand the difference between an orator, and someone with
> oratory skills. Surely you're not saying that after hearing Palin's
> speech to the RNC that she had NO oratory skills?
>
> How does having (or not having) an oratory ability reflect a lack (or
> existence) of anti-intellectual attitudes?
>
> Sorry Robert, your guy won the election, but he did not receive a
> mandate for the rest of the world to blindly become like him and what he
> represents.
>
> Again, you used Reagan as an example, but you seem to overlook what the
> "deep thinkers" and intellectual community were saying about him back then.
>
> For all of Carter's deep thinking and oratory abilities, he let a group
> of "students" hold us hostage for over a year. My personal result is our
> actions during that disgraceful period were in a large part responsible
> for 9-11.
>
> Take those radicals, who we were TOTALLY unsuccessful in dealing with,
> and multiply them by 10 fold. THAT is what the orator and deep thinker
> is going to deal with. That's OK though, because he's already made it
> clear that he's willing to sit down with any of them and "talk".
>
> We'll see what the oratory and talk gets us.
>
>
> Robert Skinner wrote:
>> Herb, I think that a person who has some oratory
>> skills will be a help in negotiations with the
>> international community. They do not have the
>> anti-intellectual attitude that has been anything
>> but an asset as we interact with the world's best
>> brains.
>>
>> /Robert
>> ---------------------------------------------------
>> Herb Parsons wrote:
>>
>>> Brad,
>>>
>>> Robtert (and others like him) are looking at Palin from the far left
>>> view. They're somehow under the illusion that we WANT an "orator" or a
>>> "deep thinker". It's funny the two he compared her (negatively) to.
>>> Regan, who the Democrats lambasted much the same way they did her
>>> (remember when he talked about Star Wars defense, and they started
>>> derisively calling him Ray-Gun?), and President Jimmy Carter. Carter!!!
>>> Yes, a great orator, a great guy in general, a good Christian man, and a
>>> joke of a President. If that's what oratory ability and deep thinking
>>> gets us, give me the common man (or woman) instead!!!
>>>
>>>
>>> Brad Haslett wrote:
>>>
>>>> Robert,
>>>>
>>>> Well, it seems you've bought into the MSM meme and haven't done your
>>>> own homework. I suggest you do your own due diligence on Gov. Palin's
>>>> very real accomplishments before you let other people do your thinking
>>>> for you. Unlike Obama's long string of failures in Chicago, Palin can
>>>> point to real successes. Frankly, I'm not impressed by a Harvard
>>>> degree in law or anything else. For the sake of the country, I wish
>>>> for a successful Obama Presidency. As for me and my family, "we're
>>>> loaded for bear". How anyone can believe that a leader with a
>>>> mediocre track record following failed economic themes can be
>>>> successful is beyond me. No one will be more happily surprised if it
>>>> all works out OK than myself.
>>>>
>>>> Brad
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 9:55 AM, Robert Skinner
>>>> <Robert at squirrelhaven.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Certainly, she is no "Great Communicator."
>>>>> We will never see "Bedtime for Palin."
>>>>> Nor, I suspect, will we hear about a
>>>>> Carteresque "lusting in the heart."
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry, Brad.
>>>>>
>>>>> But is too early to expect that Bambizilla
>>>>> will retire from the political scene. I
>>>>> suspect that the GOP spinsters will find
>>>>> some way to use her, perhaps as a contrast,
>>>>> a straw woman, to a real Republican orator
>>>>> or deep thinker to spark up the 2012 campaign.
>>>>>
>>>>> But for the next two years, I hope, we can
>>>>> get working on the nation's business. We can
>>>>> hope that Obama can calm the fears and tame
>>>>> the chaos of an economy headed for the
>>>>> dumpster. We will also see if he can
>>>>> extricate us gracefully from Iraq and succeed
>>>>> in bringing down the terrorist franchises.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hoping,
>>>>> /Robert
>>>>> -------------------------------------------
>>>>> Ben Cittadino wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Rummy;
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Very cute.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And now....before she fades into the sunset, some final words from Sarah
>>>>>> Palin....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "My concern has been the atrocities there in Darfur and the relevance to me
>>>>>> with that issue as we spoke about Africa and some of the countries there
>>>>>> that were kind of the people succumbing to the dictators and the corruption
>>>>>> of some collapsed governments on the continent, the relevance was Alaska's
>>>>>> investment in Darfur with some of our permanent fund dollars"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And, she concluded, "never, ever did I talk about, well, gee, is it a
>>>>>> country or a continent, I just don't know about this issue."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know, I know... her heart is in the right place (and so are a few other
>>>>>> parts).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ben C.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> R22RumRunner wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No Hard Feelings...to the democrats
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The election day is over,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The talking is done.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My party lost, your party won.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So let us be friends,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Let arguments pass.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll hug my elephant,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You kiss your ass.
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