[Rhodes22-list] POLITICAL-Palin Begins 2012 Campaign
David Bradley
dwbrad at gmail.com
Wed Nov 26 11:13:00 EST 2008
Brad, a couple of things to consider... first, if there are 38% of
people who don't pay taxes and about 39% of people who are eligible to
vote and don't, don't you think there is a huge overlap of those two
groups? Obama didn't just need 13% more to win. He won because he
carried the moderate middle.
Second, people vote their pocketbook? Obama pulled a stronger
majority out of the +$250K income group than he did out of middle
income groups. That group on average voted with their heads.
Dave
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 4:26 AM, Brad Haslett <flybrad at gmail.com> wrote:
> Rummy,
>
> In the final analysis, people vote their pocket book. The financial
> meltdown doomed McCain. When you have 38% of the voting population who
> don't pay federal income taxes, you only need 13% more to win. That's
> a tough hurdle to overcome. The Rust Belt will still be blue in four
> years - those jobs are gone and they're not coming back. The Peoples
> Republic of California and her sister states Oregon and Washington are
> probably a lost cause for the GOP for some time. I would have bet
> good money that McCain would win enough of the Jewish vote in Florida
> to win there, instead, that vote went to Obama 4% higher than Kerry.
> Remember 1994. Obama is moving cautiously because he has to, good for
> him. But, remember 1994. A lot can happen in two years.
>
> Brad
>
> On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 6:14 AM, <R22RumRunner at aol.com> wrote:
>> Brad,
>> It has nothing to do about liking or disliking a person. It has to do with
>> qualifications. In spite of her wonderful accomplishments in her very rural,
>> oil supported state, she is not qualified to be president. Personally I was
>> undecided who to vote for when I entered the polling place. My last second
>> decision to vote for Obama was made because of John McCains health issues and his
>> poor choice of a running mate. Had he made a better choice, he might have
>> been the president elect at this time.
>> Right now I am very comfortable with my decision.
>>
>> Rummy
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 11/26/2008 7:08:08 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>> flybrad at gmail.com writes:
>>
>> Rummy,
>>
>> I was still typing when you posted - see above. It may be a long
>> wait. Remember, it was two decades between JFK and Ronald Reagan.
>> Palin will be around in some form for a long time. If she chooses to
>> run for a second term as Guv she'll win easily or a US Senate seat in
>> two years. You obviously don't like her, that's fine. I seriously
>> doubt you've done your homework on what she's accomplished in Alaska,
>> including blowing-up her own party to weed out the bad guys. We need
>> more people like Palin who follow-up on their talk with action instead
>> of bullshit.
>>
>> Brad
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 5:59 AM, <R22RumRunner at aol.com> wrote:
>>> Brad,
>>> Get real. If Sarah Palin is the best that the Republican party has to offer
>>> for running this country, then they need to get ready for a long wait
>> before
>>> another Republican will enter the white house.
>>>
>>> Rummy
>>>
>>>
>>> In a message dated 11/25/2008 8:52:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>>> flybrad at gmail.com writes:
>>>
>>> Rummy,
>>>
>>> Sorry to burst your bubble but that is not going to happen. Despite
>>> what the pundits write, McCain would have lost by 10 points without
>>> Palin. There are still a few of us left who believe in ourselves and
>>> not some some 'gubment' program as our path to happiness and
>>> prosperity. Will Palin make it to the Whitehouse? Maybe, maybe not.
>>> Unlike "The One" where people project their hopes on a blank slate,
>>> Sarah Palin has a real record of accomplishments. Get use to is Rummy,
>>> Sarah has always written her own ticket and she's not losing sleep
>>> about your bitching. Come to think of it, neither am I.
>>>
>>> Brad
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 7:42 PM, <R22RumRunner at aol.com> wrote:
>>>> Brad,
>>>> Nobody is worried about Palin, we would just appreciate it if she would
>> go
>>>> home.....and stay there.
>>>>
>>>> Rummy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In a message dated 11/25/2008 7:34:06 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>>>> flybrad at yahoo.com writes:
>>>>
>>>> Ben,
>>>>
>>>> Sooner or later, people will figure out that Sarah Palin is the "real
>>> deal".
>>>> She didn't make fools out of Big Oil CEO's by being stupid despite the
>>>> howls of derision against her by you and your ilk. When the patina of
>>>> "sacredness" has worn off The One, people will be hungry for someone of
>>> substance.
>>>> Laugh your ass off while you can. The press and the 'leftards' wouldn't
>>> pay so
>>>> much attention to Palin if they weren't worried about her.
>>>>
>>>> Brad
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --- On Tue, 11/25/08, Ben Cittadino <bcittadino at dcs-law.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> From: Ben Cittadino <bcittadino at dcs-law.com>
>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] POLITICAL-Palin Begins 2012 Campaign
>>>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>>>> Date: Tuesday, November 25, 2008, 6:04 PM
>>>>> November 25, 2008, 3:11 pm NYTimes Online
>>>>>
>>>>> "Southern Exposure
>>>>> By Tobin Harshaw
>>>>> Well, for those of you who thought Sarah Palin would
>>>>> quietly go North to the
>>>>> Future, it appears that instead she's going Deep South:
>>>>> "Republican vice
>>>>> presidential nominee Sarah Palin will make multiple
>>>>> campaign appearances on
>>>>> behalf of Sen. Saxby Chambliss next week in Georgia,
>>>>> serving as the
>>>>> political closer for the GOP senator who is battling to win
>>>>> a second term,"
>>>>> reports CNN.
>>>>>
>>>>> "This is Palin's first campaign appearance on behalf of
>>>>> another Republican
>>>>> candidate since losing her bid to become the nation's
>>>>> first woman to serve
>>>>> as vice president. Palin will attend a fundraiser on Sunday
>>>>> night, then
>>>>> appear at multiple campaign stops on Monday in an effort to
>>>>> rally the GOP
>>>>> base to turn out to vote for Chambliss. The incumbent
>>>>> Republican is facing a
>>>>> strong challenge from Democrat Jim Martin. A runoff is
>>>>> scheduled for next
>>>>> Tuesday, after neither candidate received the 50 percent
>>>>> plus one vote
>>>>> needed to win on Election Day."
>>>>>
>>>>> Doug Mataconis at Donklephant considers the strategy:
>>>>> "The biggest challenge
>>>>> that both Chambliss and Martin face in the run-off election
>>>>> is getting their
>>>>> voters to turn out to the polls, since it's unlikely that
>>>>> voter turnout will
>>>>> be anywhere near the level it reached on November 4th. To
>>>>> the extent that
>>>>> she's able to motivate the base to get out and vote,
>>>>> Palin could prove
>>>>> useful to Chambliss."
>>>>>
>>>>> Dr. Steven Taylor at Poliblog thinks this may be more about
>>>>> Palin than
>>>>> Chambliss. "First, the move is further evidence of
>>>>> Palin's likely long-term
>>>>> ambitions," he writes. "Second, the move means that
>>>>> Chambliss thinks that
>>>>> Palin plays well with the GOP base in a red state like
>>>>> Georgia … Certainly
>>>>> if Chambliss wins, the trip will be perceived as evidence
>>>>> that Palin is a
>>>>> serious actor within the GOP going forward, at least within
>>>>> GOP circles."
>>>>>
>>>>> Palin or no Palin, Ed Morrissey at Hot Air is cautiously
>>>>> optimistic about
>>>>> the G.O.P. chances:
>>>>>
>>>>> Voter enthusiasm for Martin has declined since the general
>>>>> election. Martin
>>>>> got his momentum from the massive numbers of Obama voters,
>>>>> most of whom
>>>>> appear less interested in the remaining down-ticket race.
>>>>> Chambliss may not
>>>>> have that problem, since John McCain didn't generate an
>>>>> enthusiastic
>>>>> response from the Republican base, meaning that
>>>>> Chambliss' voters will be
>>>>> motivated more by Chambliss himself. Republicans have the
>>>>> secondary
>>>>> motivation to deny Obama a filibuster-proof Senate by
>>>>> ensuring Chambliss'
>>>>> re-election.
>>>>> Either way, it looks like it will go down to the wire.
>>>>> Republicans around
>>>>> the country who want to keep at least one potential check
>>>>> on the excesses of
>>>>> single-party government had better start actively
>>>>> supporting the Chambliss
>>>>> effort."
>>>>>
>>>>> We can't make this stuff up.
>>>>>
>>>>> Happy Thanksgiving;
>>>>>
>>>>> Ben C.
>>>>> --
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