[Rhodes22-list] Dead Battery (Again)

Tom Hogarty tjhogarty at gmail.com
Thu Nov 27 12:25:05 EST 2008


So generator hooked to battery, battery to motor to avoid diode fry.  Will
motor start when battery sufficiently charged or can it start right away?  I
can jump start my car with another battery hooked to it, without waiting for
the battery to charge.  Do the small generators have the starting power of a
fresh 12 volt battery?
Tom



R22RumRunner wrote:
> 
> Tom,
> Motors with electric start also have charging diodes which must be hooked 
> up 
> to a battery. If no battery is connected, you will fry the diodes in the  
> charging loop.
>  
> Rummy
>  
>  
> In a message dated 11/27/2008 11:53:19 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
> tjhogarty at gmail.com writes:
> 
> 
> Can  you start the motor with a small generator as the electric source?  
> Directly, without just using it to charge the  battery?
> Tom
> 
> 
> Leland wrote:
>> 
>> I seem to ask the  same question around this time every year and I hate
>> to
>> beat a dead  horse, but I am about ready to start beating my dead
>> battery.
>> 
>>  I have two batteries and two solar panels.  
>> 
>> The cabin  battery is for everything but the motor and has both solar
>> panels  attached to it.  For three years it has been fully charged,
>>  although it is rare that it operates much aside from my depth/fish 
>> finder.
>> 
>> The motor battery is only for the motor and is  hard-wired to the
>> motor--it
>> gets charged by the motor.  All three  years it has lost its charge
>> during
>> the winter.  It is also  connected to the cabin battery.  Last year there
>> was a charge  coming from the cabin battery to the motor battery, but I
>> suspect that  it is too low to keep the motor battery charged.
>> 
>> I haven't  checked the batteries' charges yet nor have I cleaned/checked
>> the  connections, but I certainly will.
>> 
>> I own a trickle charger  that connects to a 110 outlet and I own an AC/DC
>> convertor.
>>  
>> I think my new marina only has 220 electrical and I haven't yet 
>> purchased
>> an expensive 220 cord nor have I had a need to do  so.
>> 
>> 1.  Should I re-run the solar panels so that one  charges the motor
>> battery
>> and one charges the cabin battery?  I  assume there is no danger with the
>> motor battery being hard-wired to  the motor.  I don't want to do this if
>> one solar panel won't be  strong enough to keep the motor battery charged
>> or if I will risk not  being able to keep the cabin battery charged with
>> only one solar panel  connected to it instead of two.
>> 
>> 2.  Should I break down  and buy a 220 cord and use my AC/DC converter
>> and
>> trickle charger to  charge the motor battery?  Any dangers to the trickle
>> charger,  converter, or battery?
>> 
>> 3.  Should I buy one of those  rechargeable jumping battery panels to
>> start
>> the motor when the  battery is dead?  I was thinking about getting one
>> for
>> my  motorcycle anyway.  I hate it when I want to go for a ride or a  sail
>> and have to wait for the trickle charger to do its thing.
>>  
>> 4.  Any other recommendations?
>> 
>> Thanks for your  advice.  Just want to make sure the electrical juice is
>> worth the  economic squeeze.
>> 
>> Lee
>> 1986 Rhodes22  At  Ease
>> Kent Island, MD
>> 
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