[Rhodes22-list] Dead Battery (Again)

[Leland]

Rummy and Tom,

My motor battery is deep cell instead of a starter battery.  Are you sure a
battery pack will start it?  I've been told that it won't, but I don't know
why.

Next motor I get will definitely have an easier means of manually starting
the engine.

Lee


R22RumRunner wrote:
> 
> Forget the generator, just pull start the motor or use a battery pack to  
> jump start it. Generators weigh to much to lug around.
>  
> Rummy
>  
>  
> In a message dated 11/27/2008 12:25:24 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
> tjhogarty at gmail.com writes:
> 
> 
> So  generator hooked to battery, battery to motor to avoid diode fry.  
> Will
> motor start when battery sufficiently charged or can it start right  away? 
> I
> can jump start my car with another battery hooked to it,  without waiting
> for
> the battery to charge.  Do the small generators  have the starting power
> of a
> fresh 12 volt  battery?
> Tom
> 
> 
> 
> R22RumRunner wrote:
>> 
>>  Tom,
>> Motors with electric start also have charging diodes which must  be
>> hooked 
>> up 
>> to a battery. If no battery is connected, you  will fry the diodes in the  
>> charging loop.
>>   
>> Rummy
>>  
>>  
>> In a message dated  11/27/2008 11:53:19 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
>>  tjhogarty at gmail.com writes:
>> 
>> 
>> Can  you start the  motor with a small generator as the electric source?  
>> Directly,  without just using it to charge the  battery?
>> Tom
>>  
>> 
>> Leland wrote:
>>> 
>>> I seem to ask  the  same question around this time every year and I hate
>>>  to
>>> beat a dead  horse, but I am about ready to start beating  my dead
>>> battery.
>>> 
>>>  I have two  batteries and two solar panels.  
>>> 
>>> The  cabin  battery is for everything but the motor and has both  solar
>>> panels  attached to it.  For three years it has  been fully charged,
>>>  although it is rare that it operates  much aside from my depth/fish 
>>> finder.
>>> 
>>>  The motor battery is only for the motor and is  hard-wired to  the
>>> motor--it
>>> gets charged by the motor.  All  three  years it has lost its charge
>>> during
>>> the  winter.  It is also  connected to the cabin battery.  Last year 
>>> there
>>> was a charge  coming from the cabin battery to the  motor battery, but I
>>> suspect that  it is too low to keep the  motor battery charged.
>>> 
>>> I haven't  checked the  batteries' charges yet nor have I
>>> cleaned/checked
>>> the   connections, but I certainly will.
>>> 
>>> I own a trickle  charger  that connects to a 110 outlet and I own an
>>> AC/DC
>>>  convertor.
>>>  
>>> I think my new marina only has 220  electrical and I haven't yet 
>>> purchased
>>> an expensive  220 cord nor have I had a need to do  so.
>>> 
>>>  1.  Should I re-run the solar panels so that one  charges the  motor
>>> battery
>>> and one charges the cabin battery?   I  assume there is no danger with
>>> the
>>> motor battery being  hard-wired to  the motor.  I don't want to do this
>>> if
>>>  one solar panel won't be  strong enough to keep the motor battery 
>>> charged
>>> or if I will risk not  being able to keep the cabin  battery charged
>>> with
>>> only one solar panel  connected to it  instead of two.
>>> 
>>> 2.  Should I break down   and buy a 220 cord and use my AC/DC converter
>>> and
>>>  trickle charger to  charge the motor battery?  Any dangers to the 
>>> trickle
>>> charger,  converter, or battery?
>>>  
>>> 3.  Should I buy one of those  rechargeable jumping  battery panels to
>>> start
>>> the motor when the   battery is dead?  I was thinking about getting one
>>>  for
>>> my  motorcycle anyway.  I hate it when I want to go  for a ride or a 
>>> sail
>>> and have to wait for the trickle  charger to do its thing.
>>>  
>>> 4.  Any other  recommendations?
>>> 
>>> Thanks for your  advice.   Just want to make sure the electrical juice
>>> is
>>> worth the   economic squeeze.
>>> 
>>> Lee
>>> 1986 Rhodes22   At  Ease
>>> Kent Island, MD
>>> 
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