[Rhodes22-list] Failure or success?

Wed Oct 1 06:55:53 EDT 2008

Ben,

He got much of it right.  What legislators from both sides of the isle
seemed to have forgotten is that we have a republic, not a true
democracy.  They were looking at their looming re-election and not the
best interests of the country.  What is also interesting is that their
was little if any whip action among the Democrats.  It makes one
wonder if by the tone and content of the Speakers message and her
actions, or lack of action, if she didn't work to kill her own bill.
Either way, the bill should have passed. We'll see what happens next.
This one event is probably the best argument ever made for term
limits.  That's change I can believe in.

Brad

On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 7:57 PM, Benjamin Cittadino
<bigben65 at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/30/opinion/30brooks.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin
> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/30/opinion/30brooks.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin
>
>
> Brad ,Robert;
>
> The above link is to my favorite NY Times main stream media columnist.  I
> like the way he thinks
> about the "bailout" issue.
>
> Ben C.
>
> Brad Haslett-2 wrote:
>>
>> Herb,
>>
>> It works both ways.  When we lost our dump truck in an accident JAN07
>> (a $30K loss after the lawsuits) the driver wanted me to pay for his
>> hospital bills (about $6K).  "Marvin, you wanted to be an independent
>> contractor, you are, you're 66, you have Medicare, I can't pay your
>> bill without violating the law".  "I'll sue".  "Really, go ahead, I'll
>> pay your bill and then send it to Medicare and the SS".  End of story.
>>
>> You and I disagree on the immigrant issue.  We don't use any anymore
>> because it isn't worth the risk, but, they work hard, they're honest,
>> and they demand and get almost three times the minimum wage. We'd
>> gladly hire locals but if you're living rent free in a FEMA trailer
>> and drawing a stipend, there ain't no way in hell you're going to give
>> that up for a job.
>>
>> People don't get it!  Come down here to the trenches and I'll show you
>> around folks.  Or, stick with your fantasies.  How's that working out?
>>
>> Unless anyone thinks I'm heartless, I share a substantial amount of my
>> earnings with family members who are less fortunate.  Ask the Big O
>> about his brother.
>>
>> Brad
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 8:50 PM, Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Brad,
>>>
>>> This is a true story. We are in the process of converting all of our
>>> paper documents to electronic format. Today, as I was scanning in some
>>> of the ex-employees (I've taken on theirs, because they're not pressing,
>>> and I can do them when I have spare time), and came across an email that
>>> was printed and saved, as a CYA.
>>>
>>> The employee has received a .50 an hour raise. Not much, but it wasn't
>>> even an eval raise, it was just a "You're doing a good job" thing. She
>>> was asking her supervisor to rescind it.
>>>
>>> Why? Because it put her in a different income bracket, and she would not
>>> longer be able to get lunch subsidies. That .50 an hour, $20 a week, was
>>> going to cos her $30 a week for her three kids (single mother).
>>>
>>> This was NOT a minimum wage employee we're talking about. She was making
>>> well over triple the minimum wage. She had also left the company and
>>> come back because her wages were higher here.
>>>
>>> However, she didn't see how turning down .50 an hour now costs her from
>>> now until she no longer holds this job, and likely beyond, since often
>>> the new job makes an offer based largely on what the old job paid. Not
>>> only that, but she effectively froze her wages to wherever she works to
>>> whatever this portion of the nanny state has dictated is her "limit"
>>> before cutting off the freebies.
>>>
>>> That's what the nannny-state does for us.
>>>
>>>
>>> Brad Haslett wrote:
>>>> Robert,
>>>>
>>>> Why don't you come down to the Gulf Coast and be our human resources
>>>> manager for a week for our little company.  We don't need one because
>>>> we don't need to hire anyone, but it would be fun to video you
>>>> answering the phone and listening to people who want to work for cash
>>>> because they're drawing disability.  WPA?  Doesn't the W stand for
>>>> work?  Ain't gonna happen buddy.  Welcome to the 21st Century in
>>>> America.  Maybe in China - not happening here.
>>>>
>>>> Brad
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 7:24 PM, Robert Skinner
>>>> <Robert at squirrelhaven.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Looks as if the neocon Republicans have
>>>>> failed to socialize Wall Street's losses.
>>>>>
>>>>> Democrats are standing fast to let the
>>>>> results of greed find their way back to
>>>>> those who promoted and profited from it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Success will be the failure of the
>>>>> companies who overextended their loan
>>>>> positions.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is going to be a rough ride, and we
>>>>> will have to help out our neighbors who
>>>>> made foolish borrowing decisions.
>>>>>
>>>>> That is truly conservative behavior.
>>>>>
>>>>> How curious it is that so many Democrats
>>>>> are joining with old-line Republicans to
>>>>> restrain the modern go-go neocons.
>>>>>
>>>>> The people are not willing to allow the
>>>>> nouveau rich CEOs to keep their
>>>>> multimillion bail-out packages - the
>>>>> packages designed to insulate them from
>>>>> the consequences of their decisions.
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps we will need another WPA/CCC to
>>>>> recover from this experiment in economic
>>>>> deregulation.
>>>>>
>>>>> What the Hell -- most of our really
>>>>> beautiful parkways and rural public
>>>>> structures cam from the last depression.
>>>>>
>>>>> Makes the head spin...
>>>>>
>>>>> /Robert
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