[Rhodes22-list] Bavaria

Wed Oct 1 22:41:55 EDT 2008

Andrew,

You got that right, they know beer!  UPS has their European operations
based in Cologne and their crews stayed in the same hotel as us.
Every night there would be a new UPS crew from Louisville checking in
at the same time we were returning from Paris and often it was their
first time to Germany.  Delta also stayed there but they knew their
way around.  Anyway, I'd have to explain that if you're going to
guzzle, you need to order in advance because beer won't be served
until the head has settled to just the right point.

I have a pretty nice collection of beer steins from those days
including one Budvar glass.  You may know the story.  When Budweiser
decided to expand to Europe in the 80's, the Budvar brewery dug their
old agreement with Auggie Busch that said they wouldn't compete for
150 years and it hadn't been a 150 years yet.

One of my favorite cities in China is Qinhangdao, an old German
settlement that they lost after WW1. When the Chinese took over they
didn't care much for the architecture but they kept the beer.

Brad

On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 9:20 PM, Andrew Collins
<sailingvesselcarmen at gmail.com> wrote:
> Brad
>
> There is no beer like the Bavarian beer. It is classified as food, not an
> alcoholic beverage, "fluessiges Brot" liquid bread, so it can be consumed
> legally at any time.
>
> My whole family is going to Munich for a reunion in July 09 so my kids can
> meet all my German cousins. We'll be staying 'auf dem Land' in Rosenheim.
> Then we all  go to Spain for the summer vacation with my in-laws. Then we
> gotta do Texas and meet the American cousins.
>
> Prost
>
> Andrew
>
> On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 9:35 PM, Brad Haslett <flybrad at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Andrew,
>>
>> "But this is ancient history."
>>
>> Not ancient enough for some of us.  One of my lovely brides attended
>> UM-Munich and met her second husband (after me) there but we REALLY
>> don't want to go there. I was a guest of the US Army Colonel who was
>> then the Commandant of the Flint Kaserne at Octoberfest circa 1987.
>> One of the topics of discussion that evening was the Munich UM school
>> and its, er, issues. My ex mother-in-law lived in Bad Tolz until about
>> ten years ago and now lives in Florida. When we started our European
>> operations in Paris it was crewed with NYC based 727 pilots (my base
>> and airplane at the time) and I used to fly the Frankfort and Cologne
>> to Paris trips.  I'd commute to Munich a few days early and go hiking
>> in the Alps with my ex-inlaws and then reposition.  I haven't been to
>> that part of the world since 1998 when I flew to Basel, Switzerland to
>> haul three adult hippos and one baby to Disney World. I really miss
>> Bavaria and had some wonderful times there - best as I can remember,
>> there was lots of beer involved.
>>
>> Brad
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 8:18 PM, Andrew Collins
>>  <sailingvesselcarmen at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Brad
>> >
>> > I did not, but my sister did. My schooling was at the Steinerschule in
>> > Schwabing and then a year at the Munich International School in
>> anticipation
>> > of moving to the States. We got here in 1970 when I was 14. The UM
>> extension
>> > question is no biggie, it was a wild and crazy time and the student body
>> was
>> > a real mix. For a 12-13 year-old with an 18 year old sister it was real
>> > interesting, but less so for my parents. They really did not know how to
>> > balance the nice staid  German culture (school, friends, relaitves) we
>> were
>> > all living in with the free-ranging style of the UM extension.  But this
>> is
>> > ancient history. So, how do you know about the UM in Munich?
>> >
>> > tschüss
>> >
>> > Andrew
>> >
>> > On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 8:47 PM, Brad Haslett <flybrad at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Andrew,
>> >>
>> >> I probably shouldn't ask this question but I have to - did you attend
>> >> the University of Maryland in Munich?
>> >>
>> >> Brad
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 7:36 PM, Andrew Collins
>> >>  <sailingvesselcarmen at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > Brad
>> >> >
>> >> > You made my day.  Use that dieresis ( two dots above a vowel)!  I grew
>> up
>> >> in
>> >> > Munich and know the region well.
>> >> >
>> >> > Prost!
>> >> >
>> >> > Andrew
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 9:53 PM, Brad Haslett <flybrad at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Andrew,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Grüß Gott
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I haven't figured out that "omelet" thingy yet.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Brad
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 4:21 PM, Andrew Collins
>> >> >> <sailingvesselcarmen at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> > Brad
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > It is *Bad Tölz!*
>> >> >> > Andrew
>> >> >> > sv Carmen
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 12:50 PM, Brad Haslett <flybrad at gmail.com>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> You've heard the story here before.  The book "Last Days of
>> Patton"
>> >> by
>> >> >> >> Ladislas Farago mentions a Hans Weindl in the acknowledgments and
>> >> >> >> tells the story of Hans in the first chapter remembering Patton
>> >> >> >> driving through Bad Tolz with the claxon horns blaring.  Bad Tolz
>> was
>> >> >> >> the site of the SS training camp and was headquarters for Patton
>> >> after
>> >> >> >> WW2 until his death.  Hans (now deceased) was the step-father of
>> my
>> >> >> >> ex-wife and we vacationed every year in Bad Tolz. Hans and I got
>> into
>> >> >> >> a lot of trouble together combining long nights, German beer, and
>> war
>> >> >> >> stories.  His father was Chief of Police of Bad Tolz and when Hans
>> >> >> >> came home from a Hitler Youth meeting in the closing days of the
>> war
>> >> >> >> with an antiquated rifle, his father took away his gun and locked
>> him
>> >> >> >> in the attic until the American tanks rolled into town.  Where was
>> I
>> >> >> >> going with this?  Oh yeah, it is official now.  This thing has
>> >> morphed
>> >> >> >> into a freaking cult.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TW9b0xr06qA
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Brad
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