[Rhodes22-list] Extension bar use

R22RumRunner at aol.com R22RumRunner at aol.com
Thu Oct 2 13:45:19 EDT 2008


Caesar,
Even though the gurgling sound is something we are not accustomed to, I can  
assure you that it is causing no damage to your drive train. The back pressure 
 is nothing compared to the back pressure your catalytic converter and  
muffler  create.
I gave up on using the extension except for those instances where the water  
starts coming in the door of my truck. I have the luxury of four wheel drive 
and  Michelin LTX tires to get me out of any trouble I might stumble into. Of 
course,  if you are entering salt water, the normal precautions of rinsing the 
truck once  completed and cooled down are necessary to prevent the truck from 
rusting. The  underside of your vehicle is built to withstand water, either 
frozen or  liquid.
 
Rummy
 
 
 
In a message dated 10/2/2008 12:48:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
caesarpaul01 at yahoo.com writes:

Rummy,

Good question.

Now you got me  thinking, I guess the pressure of the water in the exhaust 
pipe would have to  be greater then the pressure of the exhaust gas coming out 
of the pipe to  cause any problems, like choking the engine and causing it to  
stall.

What has been your experience in submerging an exhaust  pipe while launching 
a boat, as you can see I've never ventured that  deep?

Caesar

Caesar

--- On Wed, 10/1/08,  R22RumRunner at aol.com <R22RumRunner at aol.com> wrote:

From:  R22RumRunner at aol.com <R22RumRunner at aol.com>
Subject: Re:  [Rhodes22-list] Extension bar use
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Date:  Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 2:54 PM

Caesar,
Why would you have to  stop when the exhaust pipe starts to belch?

Rummy


In a  message dated 10/1/2008 4:39:54 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,   
caesarpaul01 at yahoo.com writes:

Ben,

I have had my boat for  about 4 months now and have  launched and retrieved 
weekly for the  first two months.  I have launched  without, and with the  
extension.  It has been easier for me to extend the  bar after I  unhitch from
the tow 
vehicle.

Both the angle of the  ramp,  and the height of the tow vehicle dictate 
whether you use the  extender  or not.  I have been able to launch on all my
ramps  
without using the  extension bar.  The rear wheels got wet, and,  regardless 
of 
your  vehicle, you would need to stop when your exhaust  pipe begins to  
belch.

Caesar
Gentle Breeze 
1984  Recycled  2008 

--- On Wed, 10/1/08, ben   <benonvelvetelvis at theskinnyonbenny.com> wrote:

From: ben   <benonvelvetelvis at theskinnyonbenny.com>
Subject: Re:  [Rhodes22-list]  Extension bar use
To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'"  
<rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2008,  11:07  AM

Do most of you find that you need the extension  bar?  My normal  launch gets
deep enough fast enough that I don't  need to use it at  all.

Ben S.
R22 Velvet  Elvis

-----Original  Message-----
From:   rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]   On Behalf Of Michael D. Weisner
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008  10:57  AM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list]  Extension  bar use

Andrew,

I have played the same game of  "catch the pin"  many times.  Proper 
adjustment of the trailer  height using the  trailer jack and lots of fresh 
grease on the tongue  extension make the job  much easier, whether the car is 
used or you  do it by hand.  My new  extension tongue is slightly longer (1  
foot) and has a stop fixed to the  end to prevent pulling it all the  way out,

just in case.

We used  to launch or retrieve in  30-45 minutes with a trained crew of 3-4. 
Now, my  wife and I are  able to accomplish the task in about an hour or so,  
including  rigging while on the water.  I found that I spent too much  time  
climbing up and down the boat while still on the trailer to rig. We   just 
extend the tongue, launch, VERIFY NO LEAKS, motor out, drop the  hook,  step 
the mast and rig in the river.  Now we have no  overheads to  worry about 
while on the trailer.

If you require  help, we are in  Kings Park, probably not that far from  you.

Mike
s/v Shanghai'd  Summer ('81)
Nissequogue River,  NY


From: "Andrew Collins"   <sailingvesselcarmen at gmail.com>Sent:
Wednesday, 
October 01,  2008  11:35 AM
> Wally
>
> The extension bar is a real  help in  launching and retrieving, the only 
> catch
> is  sliding it in and  out and lining up the fast-pin holes while you  are
> driving. This is  especially aggravating if you are alone.  The easy 
> solution
> we  came up with is to pull the  extension bar out by hand, re-hitch it to 
>  the
> tow  vehicle and proceed to launch, or vice versa.
>
>  A little  game has evolved out of this as well if there is a driver and  a
>  fast-pin inserter: slowly drive forward pulling the extension bar  out  
> (with
> the trailer chocked!), fast-pin guy yelling  'slow',  SLOWER",
GOT IT! as 
> the
> holes appear. As  with all things,  practice makes perfect. Pretty soon 
>  you'll
> know exactly where  that hole is inside the front support  sleeve.
>
> Too many of us  launch and retrieve alone, and  one gets pretty good at a 
> lot
>  of things. It goes much  faster with an extra pair of hands, and then 
there
> is a good  reason to crack a cold one.
>
>  Andrew
> s/v  Carmen
>
> On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Joe  Babb  <joe.babb at comcast.net>
wrote:
>
>> Hi   Wally,
>> Sharon and I trailer sail our Rhodes 22.  We find  that  extending the
>> trailer tongue to launch and retrieve is  the  most
>> aggravating thing about it.  Otherwise things  go quite  smoothly with
the
>> mast hoist system.  It  just takes time  and patience.
>> It takes us about 1.5 to 2  hours to rig and  launch.  That's from
parking
>> at the  launch ramp to parking  the truck and
>> trailer.  The best  tip is to minimize the  amount of time you spend
>> getting on  and off the boat through  planning your
>> work.  We tow  with a Chevy 2500  Silverado.  We usually get 16 -18  mpg
on
>> the highway  without towing.  On the  way
>> back across the Smoky Mountains  from Edenton we got  about 12 mpg
average
>> towing the  Rhodes.
>> Going  up steep hills usually slows us down to 40 or  45.  We found  the
>> boat tows well at 55 mph.
>> So  far, I've  always just jumped in the water and led Harmony 
onto
the
>>  trailer.  The trailer extension is a pain, but  also
>>  very nice as it gets you far  enough into the water to  avoid  having
to
>> use muscle power to launch.
>> Hope  this  helps.
>> Joe
>>
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