[Rhodes22-list] Extension bar use

Michael D. Weisner mweisner at ebsmed.com
Thu Oct 2 14:31:29 EDT 2008 

Mary Lou,

That was great.  The fact that they did it in the dark added to the drama. 
What a crazy way to launch a boat!

I think that fellow has a cousin living in my area.  We have pictures of a 
Tacoma pickup that didn't float well as a power boat was electrically 
winched onto the trailer and pulled the vehicle into the water instead.

CHOCKS!!  CHOCKS!!  CHOCKS!!

Mike
s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
Nissequogue River, NY

From: "Mary Lou Troy" <mtroy at atlanticbb.net>Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 
2:13 PM
> When we used to launch with our Chevy Blazer, we always had the
> tailpipe bubbling. Never seemed to do any damage, never stalled. We
> would have just the very end of the tailpipe in the water.
>
> Once saw a guy at a lake in NJ launching a small boat with a SAAB
> sedan. He had some sort of flexible tubing attached to his tail pipe
> with a hose clamp. The tubing was attached to a frame that held the
> open end way above the trunk of the car. He backed WAY in.
>
> Of course I've also seen the pictures of guys who ended up launching
> their pickup when they backed in too far and it did stall. Or you
> could launch your R22 like this:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iU6k40iyvH4&feature=related
>
> Mary Lou
> 1991 R22 Fretless
> Rock Hall, MD
>
>
> At 12:47 PM 10/2/2008, you wrote:
>>Rummy,
>>
>>Good question.
>>
>>Now you got me thinking, I guess the pressure of the water in the
>>exhaust pipe would have to be greater then the pressure of the
>>exhaust gas coming out of the pipe to cause any problems, like
>>choking the engine and causing it to stall.
>>
>>What has been your experience in submerging an exhaust pipe while
>>launching a boat, as you can see I've never ventured that deep?
>>
>>Caesar
>>
>>Caesar
>>
>>--- On Wed, 10/1/08, R22RumRunner at aol.com <R22RumRunner at aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>From: R22RumRunner at aol.com <R22RumRunner at aol.com>
>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Extension bar use
>>To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 2:54 PM
>>
>>Caesar,
>>Why would you have to stop when the exhaust pipe starts to belch?
>>
>>Rummy
>>
>>
>>In a message dated 10/1/2008 4:39:54 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>caesarpaul01 at yahoo.com writes:
>>
>>Ben,
>>
>>I have had my boat for about 4 months now and have  launched and retrieved
>>weekly for the first two months.  I have launched  without, and with the
>>extension.  It has been easier for me to extend the  bar after I unhitch 
>>from
>>the tow
>>vehicle.
>>
>>Both the angle of the  ramp, and the height of the tow vehicle dictate
>>whether you use the extender  or not.  I have been able to launch on all 
>>my
>>ramps
>>without using the  extension bar.  The rear wheels got wet, and,
>>regardless of
>>your  vehicle, you would need to stop when your exhaust pipe begins to 
>>belch.
>>
>>Caesar
>>Gentle Breeze
>>1984 Recycled  2008
>>
>>--- On Wed, 10/1/08, ben  <benonvelvetelvis at theskinnyonbenny.com> wrote:
>>
>>From: ben  <benonvelvetelvis at theskinnyonbenny.com>
>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list]  Extension bar use
>>To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'"
>><rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 11:07  AM
>>
>>Do most of you find that you need the extension bar?  My normal  launch 
>>gets
>>deep enough fast enough that I don't need to use it at  all.
>>
>>Ben S.
>>R22 Velvet Elvis
>>
>>-----Original  Message-----
>>From:  rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Michael D. 
>>Weisner
>>Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 10:57  AM
>>To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Extension  bar use
>>
>>Andrew,
>>
>>I have played the same game of "catch the pin"  many times.  Proper
>>adjustment of the trailer height using the  trailer jack and lots of fresh
>>grease on the tongue extension make the job  much easier, whether the car 
>>is
>>used or you do it by hand.  My new  extension tongue is slightly longer (1
>>foot) and has a stop fixed to the  end to prevent pulling it all the way 
>>out,
>>
>>just in case.
>>
>>We used  to launch or retrieve in 30-45 minutes with a trained crew of 
>>3-4.
>>Now, my  wife and I are able to accomplish the task in about an hour or 
>>so,
>>including rigging while on the water.  I found that I spent too much  time
>>climbing up and down the boat while still on the trailer to rig. We  just
>>extend the tongue, launch, VERIFY NO LEAKS, motor out, drop the hook, 
>>step
>>the mast and rig in the river.  Now we have no overheads to  worry about
>>while on the trailer.
>>
>>If you require help, we are in  Kings Park, probably not that far from 
>>you.
>>
>>Mike
>>s/v Shanghai'd  Summer ('81)
>>Nissequogue River, NY
>>
>>
>>From: "Andrew Collins"  <sailingvesselcarmen at gmail.com>Sent:
>>Wednesday,
>>October 01, 2008  11:35 AM
>> > Wally
>> >
>> > The extension bar is a real help in  launching and retrieving, the only
>> > catch
>> > is sliding it in and  out and lining up the fast-pin holes while you 
>> > are
>> > driving. This is  especially aggravating if you are alone. The easy
>> > solution
>> > we  came up with is to pull the extension bar out by hand, re-hitch it 
>> > to
>> >  the
>> > tow vehicle and proceed to launch, or vice versa.
>> >
>> >  A little game has evolved out of this as well if there is a driver and 
>> > a
>> > fast-pin inserter: slowly drive forward pulling the extension bar  out
>> > (with
>> > the trailer chocked!), fast-pin guy yelling 'slow',  SLOWER",
>>GOT IT! as
>> > the
>> > holes appear. As with all things,  practice makes perfect. Pretty soon
>> > you'll
>> > know exactly where  that hole is inside the front support sleeve.
>> >
>> > Too many of us  launch and retrieve alone, and one gets pretty good at 
>> > a
>> > lot
>> >  of things. It goes much faster with an extra pair of hands, and then
>>there
>> > is a good reason to crack a cold one.
>> >
>> >  Andrew
>> > s/v Carmen
>> >
>> > On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Joe  Babb <joe.babb at comcast.net>
>>wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi  Wally,
>> >> Sharon and I trailer sail our Rhodes 22.  We find that  extending the
>> >> trailer tongue to launch and retrieve is the  most
>> >> aggravating thing about it.  Otherwise things go quite  smoothly with
>>the
>> >> mast hoist system.  It just takes time  and patience.
>> >> It takes us about 1.5 to 2 hours to rig and  launch.  That's from
>>parking
>> >> at the launch ramp to parking  the truck and
>> >> trailer.  The best tip is to minimize the  amount of time you spend
>> >> getting on and off the boat through  planning your
>> >> work.  We tow with a Chevy 2500  Silverado.  We usually get 16 -18 mpg
>>on
>> >> the highway  without towing.  On the way
>> >> back across the Smoky Mountains  from Edenton we got about 12 mpg
>>average
>> >> towing the  Rhodes.
>> >> Going up steep hills usually slows us down to 40 or  45.  We found the
>> >> boat tows well at 55 mph.
>> >> So  far, I've always just jumped in the water and led Harmony
>>onto
>>the
>> >> trailer.  The trailer extension is a pain, but  also
>> >> very nice as it gets you far  enough into the water to  avoid having
>>to
>> >> use muscle power to launch.
>> >> Hope this  helps.
>> >> Joe
>> >>
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