[Rhodes22-list] Bavaria

Fri Oct 3 10:42:48 EDT 2008

Andrew,

You reminded me of an occasion one night where I spewed some really
good beer all over the table.  Hans and I were having some brews
outside with the retired brewmiester of the Grüner-Brauerei. The
brewery's logo was whatever that deer like animal that lives in the
Alps is called and I used to have a set of their glasses, all since
broken.  I asked if he thought the beer had changed since he retired
and Hans managed to get the translation out with a straight face.
"No, it tastes like chamois piss!"

Brad

On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 9:30 AM, Andrew Collins
<sailingvesselcarmen at gmail.com> wrote:
> More beer trivia: all of the excellent Japanese beers like Sapporo are
> wonderful clean German-style lagers brewed per German purity laws (water,
> malt, hops and yeast are teh only permitted ingrediants) in beweries built
> with German technology during the dark days before and during WW II.
>
> Andrew
>
> On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 10:41 PM, Brad Haslett <flybrad at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Andrew,
>>
>> You got that right, they know beer!  UPS has their European operations
>> based in Cologne and their crews stayed in the same hotel as us.
>> Every night there would be a new UPS crew from Louisville checking in
>> at the same time we were returning from Paris and often it was their
>> first time to Germany.  Delta also stayed there but they knew their
>> way around.  Anyway, I'd have to explain that if you're going to
>> guzzle, you need to order in advance because beer won't be served
>> until the head has settled to just the right point.
>>
>> I have a pretty nice collection of beer steins from those days
>> including one Budvar glass.  You may know the story.  When Budweiser
>> decided to expand to Europe in the 80's, the Budvar brewery dug their
>> old agreement with Auggie Busch that said they wouldn't compete for
>> 150 years and it hadn't been a 150 years yet.
>>
>> One of my favorite cities in China is Qinhangdao, an old German
>> settlement that they lost after WW1. When the Chinese took over they
>> didn't care much for the architecture but they kept the beer.
>>
>> Brad
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 9:20 PM, Andrew Collins
>>  <sailingvesselcarmen at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Brad
>> >
>> > There is no beer like the Bavarian beer. It is classified as food, not an
>> > alcoholic beverage, "fluessiges Brot" liquid bread, so it can be consumed
>> > legally at any time.
>> >
>> > My whole family is going to Munich for a reunion in July 09 so my kids
>> can
>> > meet all my German cousins. We'll be staying 'auf dem Land' in Rosenheim.
>> > Then we all  go to Spain for the summer vacation with my in-laws. Then we
>> > gotta do Texas and meet the American cousins.
>> >
>> > Prost
>> >
>> > Andrew
>> >
>> > On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 9:35 PM, Brad Haslett <flybrad at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Andrew,
>> >>
>> >> "But this is ancient history."
>> >>
>> >> Not ancient enough for some of us.  One of my lovely brides attended
>> >> UM-Munich and met her second husband (after me) there but we REALLY
>> >> don't want to go there. I was a guest of the US Army Colonel who was
>> >> then the Commandant of the Flint Kaserne at Octoberfest circa 1987.
>> >> One of the topics of discussion that evening was the Munich UM school
>> >> and its, er, issues. My ex mother-in-law lived in Bad Tolz until about
>> >> ten years ago and now lives in Florida. When we started our European
>> >> operations in Paris it was crewed with NYC based 727 pilots (my base
>> >> and airplane at the time) and I used to fly the Frankfort and Cologne
>> >> to Paris trips.  I'd commute to Munich a few days early and go hiking
>> >> in the Alps with my ex-inlaws and then reposition.  I haven't been to
>> >> that part of the world since 1998 when I flew to Basel, Switzerland to
>> >> haul three adult hippos and one baby to Disney World. I really miss
>> >> Bavaria and had some wonderful times there - best as I can remember,
>> >> there was lots of beer involved.
>> >>
>> >> Brad
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 8:18 PM, Andrew Collins
>> >>  <sailingvesselcarmen at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > Brad
>> >> >
>> >> > I did not, but my sister did. My schooling was at the Steinerschule in
>> >> > Schwabing and then a year at the Munich International School in
>> >> anticipation
>> >> > of moving to the States. We got here in 1970 when I was 14. The UM
>> >> extension
>> >> > question is no biggie, it was a wild and crazy time and the student
>> body
>> >> was
>> >> > a real mix. For a 12-13 year-old with an 18 year old sister it was
>> real
>> >> > interesting, but less so for my parents. They really did not know how
>> to
>> >> > balance the nice staid  German culture (school, friends, relaitves) we
>> >> were
>> >> > all living in with the free-ranging style of the UM extension.  But
>> this
>> >> is
>> >> > ancient history. So, how do you know about the UM in Munich?
>> >> >
>> >> > tschüss
>> >> >
>> >> > Andrew
>> >> >
>> >> > On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 8:47 PM, Brad Haslett <flybrad at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Andrew,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I probably shouldn't ask this question but I have to - did you attend
>> >> >> the University of Maryland in Munich?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Brad
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 7:36 PM, Andrew Collins
>> >> >>  <sailingvesselcarmen at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> > Brad
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > You made my day.  Use that dieresis ( two dots above a vowel)!  I
>> grew
>> >> up
>> >> >> in
>> >> >> > Munich and know the region well.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Prost!
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Andrew
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 9:53 PM, Brad Haslett <flybrad at gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> Andrew,
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Grüß Gott
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I haven't figured out that "omelet" thingy yet.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Brad
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 4:21 PM, Andrew Collins
>> >> >> >> <sailingvesselcarmen at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> > Brad
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > It is *Bad Tölz!*
>> >> >> >> > Andrew
>> >> >> >> > sv Carmen
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 12:50 PM, Brad Haslett <
>> flybrad at gmail.com>
>> >> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> You've heard the story here before.  The book "Last Days of
>> >> Patton"
>> >> >> by
>> >> >> >> >> Ladislas Farago mentions a Hans Weindl in the acknowledgments
>> and
>> >> >> >> >> tells the story of Hans in the first chapter remembering Patton
>> >> >> >> >> driving through Bad Tolz with the claxon horns blaring.  Bad
>> Tolz
>> >> was
>> >> >> >> >> the site of the SS training camp and was headquarters for
>> Patton
>> >> >> after
>> >> >> >> >> WW2 until his death.  Hans (now deceased) was the step-father
>> of
>> >> my
>> >> >> >> >> ex-wife and we vacationed every year in Bad Tolz. Hans and I
>> got
>> >> into
>> >> >> >> >> a lot of trouble together combining long nights, German beer,
>> and
>> >> war
>> >> >> >> >> stories.  His father was Chief of Police of Bad Tolz and when
>> Hans
>> >> >> >> >> came home from a Hitler Youth meeting in the closing days of
>> the
>> >> war
>> >> >> >> >> with an antiquated rifle, his father took away his gun and
>> locked
>> >> him
>> >> >> >> >> in the attic until the American tanks rolled into town.  Where
>> was
>> >> I
>> >> >> >> >> going with this?  Oh yeah, it is official now.  This thing has
>> >> >> morphed
>> >> >> >> >> into a freaking cult.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TW9b0xr06qA
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Brad
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