[Rhodes22-list] POLITICAL - Peter and Robert
Herb Parsons
hparsons at parsonsys.com
Thu Oct 9 19:16:46 EDT 2008
JB,
I agree completely. Just as there's nothing racist about a lot of things
in this election. It doesn't stop the idiots out there (or even "on
here") from making the accusation though.
There have already been numerous examples out there (and even one "on
here") of that happening with this issue.
JbTek wrote:
> There is nothing racist about this.
> Enough for me too.
> Jb
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Herb Parsons" <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 3:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] POLITICAL - Peter and Robert
>
>
>
>> I agree with you, it would have an impact.
>>
>> I think you'd have to ask Fox why, maybe they don't want the flap of
>> being called "racists" if they talk more about his story.
>>
>> However, the actual link IS tenuious in this instance. We don't know for
>> sure it was the Weathermen, and we don't know for sure that Ayers was
>> involved.
>>
>> What we DO know is this:
>>
>> Obama said he is "friendly" with Ayers (his own word)
>> Ayers has been a welcomed supporter of Obama
>> Ayers was a member, and makes no apologies for that membership, or the
>> actions that the group took. He said they didn't do enough bombing.
>> That group did these types of activities.
>>
>> You'd think that would be enough for some folks.
>>
>> It is for me.
>>
>>
>> JbTek wrote:
>>
>>> So why isn't he on Fox telling his story? I'm sure very few people know
>>> these kind of details. I think it would have a big impact.
>>> I know it would with anyone who has been a victim of violent crime.
>>> Jb
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Brad Haslett" <flybrad at gmail.com>
>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 2:38 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] POLITICAL - Peter and Robert
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Jb,
>>>>
>>>> Here's a would be victim in his own words.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.city-journal.org/2008/eon0430jm.html
>>>>
>>>> You can draw your own conclusions.
>>>>
>>>> Brad
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 10:52 AM, JbTek <j.bulfer at jbtek.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Ed wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Bad or evil can be differentiated into degrees of badness. Not all
>>>>>
> bad
>
>>> or
>>>
>>>
>>>>> evil is of the same level of wrong. A thief is bad. A murderer is
>>>>>
> more
>
>>>>> bad. An unrepentant terrorist is most bad.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ed,
>>>>> My brother was robbed, then shot in the back & left to die 3 days
>>>>>
> before
>
>>>>> Christmas. He was 37 years old with 2 kids. His youngest son shot
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> himself in
>>>
>>>
>>>>> the chest last Christmas & died.
>>>>> Are you telling me that this unrepentent terrorist, who killed no one,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> is
>>>
>>>
>>>>> more evil than the person that devistated our family?
>>>>> I don't think so.
>>>>> Jb
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Tootle" <ekroposki at charter.net>
>>>>> To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 3:40 AM
>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] POLITICAL - Peter and Robert
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Peter and Robert:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ayers comments published on September 11, 2001, Ayers had this to say
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> about
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> his bombing past, "I don't regret setting bombs; I feel we didn't do
>>>>>> enough."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Obama keeps saying what Ayers did 40 years ago or 20 years ago is not
>>>>>> important.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would have fewer problems with Obama's association if in fact Ayers
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>> was
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> repentant and repudiated his actions when he was in his 20's. Some
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>> people
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> do make mistakes and grow up. However, Obama associates with an
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> unrepentant
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> terrorist, Bill Ayers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The above were reported public comments made just seven years ago.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>> Just
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> after a terrorist attack on USA.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Obama said he would sit down with foreign terrorist groups to resolve
>>>>>> grievances. He would sit down with Akmenijad. Obviously he would
>>>>>>
> sit
>
>>>>> down
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> with them because he still sits down with an American Terrorist, his
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> fellow
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> board member, Bill Ayers. He does not see any problem with
>>>>>>
> terrorists.
>
>>>>>> The issue here is Ayers is an unrepentant and unchanged American
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> terrorist.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> How can you justify supporting evil?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Evil or the difference between good and bad is not defined by
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>> individual
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> choice. Moral clarity is not necessarily a religious issue. "A lack
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>> of
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> moral clarity is why people living in free societies can come to see
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>> their
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> fellow citizens as their enemies and foreign dictators as their
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>> friends."
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> Natan Sharansky
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Evil or the difference between good and bad is not necessarily a
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>> religious
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> topic. Different societies have by various paths come to similar
>>>>>> definitions of good and evil. By acceptable definitions, unrepentant
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>> evil
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> is bad. Freely associating with a person who by most standards is
>>>>>>
> evil
>
>>> is
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> wrong. Supporting an evil person, for whatever reasons, is assisting
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>> in a
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> conspiracy of evil.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bad or evil can be differentiated into degrees of badness. Not all
>>>>>>
> bad
>
>>> or
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> evil is of the same level of wrong. A thief is bad. A murderer is
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>> more
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> bad. An unrepentant terrorist is most bad.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ed K
>>>>>> Greenville, SC, USA
>>>>>> [no addendum for Andrew]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>
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>>>>>>
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