[Rhodes22-list] POLITICAL - Peter and Robert
JbTek
j.bulfer at jbtek.com
Thu Oct 9 19:43:35 EDT 2008
Herb,
I remember that scandle well. McCain was involved up to his neck.
I remember shaking my head in disgust when he was re-elected again.
McCain is no better than Keating....he should have gone to jail also.
He just got away with it......again, our legal system at work.
Jb
----- Original Message -----
From: "Herb Parsons" <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 4:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] POLITICAL - Peter and Robert
> Pete
>
> Is it your assertion that because Ayers wasn't convicted, that he wasn't
> involved?
>
> And yes, Keating was convicted. What exactly did McCain have to do with
> what Keating did?
>
>
> petelargo wrote:
> > more time has been spent looking into this than anything else because it
> > would be a game changer. but they just can't find anything, so the
tactic is
> > to only conjecture about it and question obamas 'character' as
un-american,
> > rather than dealing with the very real crisis issues that we are facing.
> > ayers was not convicted of anything. keating sure as hell was. mccain
helped
> > destroy thousands of peoples finances during the S&L crisis and we paid.
PS.
> > I am very very sorry for your terrible family tragedy.
> >
> >
> >
> > Just bent wrote:
> >
> >> So why isn't he on Fox telling his story? I'm sure very few people know
> >> these kind of details. I think it would have a big impact.
> >> I know it would with anyone who has been a victim of violent crime.
> >> Jb
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Brad Haslett" <flybrad at gmail.com>
> >> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 2:38 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] POLITICAL - Peter and Robert
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> Jb,
> >>>
> >>> Here's a would be victim in his own words.
> >>>
> >>> http://www.city-journal.org/2008/eon0430jm.html
> >>>
> >>> You can draw your own conclusions.
> >>>
> >>> Brad
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 10:52 AM, JbTek <j.bulfer at jbtek.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Ed wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Bad or evil can be differentiated into degrees of badness. Not all
bad
> >>>>
> >> or
> >>
> >>>> evil is of the same level of wrong. A thief is bad. A murderer is
> >>>>
> >>> more
> >>>
> >>>> bad. An unrepentant terrorist is most bad.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Ed,
> >>>> My brother was robbed, then shot in the back & left to die 3 days
> >>>>
> >>> before
> >>>
> >>>> Christmas. He was 37 years old with 2 kids. His youngest son shot
> >>>>
> >> himself in
> >>
> >>>> the chest last Christmas & died.
> >>>> Are you telling me that this unrepentent terrorist, who killed no
one,
> >>>>
> >> is
> >>
> >>>> more evil than the person that devistated our family?
> >>>> I don't think so.
> >>>> Jb
> >>>>
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> From: "Tootle" <ekroposki at charter.net>
> >>>> To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >>>> Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 3:40 AM
> >>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] POLITICAL - Peter and Robert
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Peter and Robert:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Ayers comments published on September 11, 2001, Ayers had this to
say
> >>>>>
> >>>> about
> >>>>
> >>>>> his bombing past, "I don't regret setting bombs; I feel we didn't do
> >>>>> enough."
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Obama keeps saying what Ayers did 40 years ago or 20 years ago is
not
> >>>>> important.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I would have fewer problems with Obama's association if in fact
Ayers
> >>>>>
> >> was
> >>
> >>>>> repentant and repudiated his actions when he was in his 20's. Some
> >>>>>
> >> people
> >>
> >>>>> do make mistakes and grow up. However, Obama associates with an
> >>>>>
> >>>> unrepentant
> >>>>
> >>>>> terrorist, Bill Ayers.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The above were reported public comments made just seven years ago.
> >>>>>
> >> Just
> >>
> >>>>> after a terrorist attack on USA.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Obama said he would sit down with foreign terrorist groups to
resolve
> >>>>> grievances. He would sit down with Akmenijad. Obviously he would
sit
> >>>>>
> >>>> down
> >>>>
> >>>>> with them because he still sits down with an American Terrorist, his
> >>>>>
> >>>> fellow
> >>>>
> >>>>> board member, Bill Ayers. He does not see any problem with
> >>>>>
> >>> terrorists.
> >>>
> >>>>> The issue here is Ayers is an unrepentant and unchanged American
> >>>>>
> >>>> terrorist.
> >>>>
> >>>>> How can you justify supporting evil?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Evil or the difference between good and bad is not defined by
> >>>>>
> >> individual
> >>
> >>>>> choice. Moral clarity is not necessarily a religious issue. "A
lack
> >>>>>
> >> of
> >>
> >>>>> moral clarity is why people living in free societies can come to see
> >>>>>
> >> their
> >>
> >>>>> fellow citizens as their enemies and foreign dictators as their
> >>>>>
> >> friends."
> >>
> >>>>> Natan Sharansky
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Evil or the difference between good and bad is not necessarily a
> >>>>>
> >> religious
> >>
> >>>>> topic. Different societies have by various paths come to similar
> >>>>> definitions of good and evil. By acceptable definitions,
unrepentant
> >>>>>
> >> evil
> >>
> >>>>> is bad. Freely associating with a person who by most standards is
> >>>>>
> >>> evil
> >>>
> >> is
> >>
> >>>>> wrong. Supporting an evil person, for whatever reasons, is
assisting
> >>>>>
> >> in a
> >>
> >>>>> conspiracy of evil.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Bad or evil can be differentiated into degrees of badness. Not all
> >>>>>
> >>> bad
> >>>
> >> or
> >>
> >>>>> evil is of the same level of wrong. A thief is bad. A murderer is
> >>>>>
> >> more
> >>
> >>>>> bad. An unrepentant terrorist is most bad.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Ed K
> >>>>> Greenville, SC, USA
> >>>>> [no addendum for Andrew]
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> View this message in context:
> >>>>>
> >>
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> >>
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> >>>>>
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