[Rhodes22-list] Andrew this is a reply to the Political post 'More News' by Ben C and Herb neither of which did you label as Political

Wed Oct 15 08:11:16 EDT 2008

Herb,

After seeing Ben C.'s post and your reply, I must ask, would all of Ben's
views mirror his father's?
In this case maybe yes?  Was his father one of the Italian socialist who
brought Mussolini to power?  Maybe here we have a chip off the old block? 

If you go back far enough in history of Italy, you find Rome.  They had
slavery in the Roman Empire.  They had emperors.   They sent dissenters such
as Christians to the lions.  Maybe his views have a historical or genetic
origin?

In that Socialism is a modern form or attempt at slavery, have we found the
origins of his views?  Inquiring minds want answers.

Ed K
Greenville, SC, USA

hparsons wrote:
> 
> Yep, big news there. A guy disagrees with the standards of his father, 
> and has for years. Never seen THAT one happen before...
> 
> Benjamin Cittadino wrote:
>> More news:
>>
>> "CNN-
>> MChristopher Buckley, the son of conservative icon William F. Buckley,
>> said
>> Tuesday he's resigned from the conservative National Review days after
>> endorsing Barack Obama's White House bid, among the most powerful symbols
>> yet of the conservative discontent expressed this election cycle.
>>
>> In an online column, Buckley said he had decided to offer his resignation
>> from the magazine his father founded after hundreds of readers and some
>> National Review colleagues expressed outrage he was backing the Illinois
>> senator.
>>
>> "While I regret this development, I am not in mourning, for I no longer
>> have
>> any clear idea what, exactly, the modern conservative movement stands
>> for,"
>> Buckley wrote.
>>
>> "Eight years of 'conservative' government has brought us a doubled
>> national
>> debt, ruinous expansion of entitlement programs, bridges to nowhere,
>> poster
>> boy Jack Abramoff and an ill-premised, ill-waged war conducted by
>> politicians of breathtaking arrogance. As a sideshow, it brought us a
>> truly
>> obscene attempt at federal intervention in the Terry Schiavo case," he
>> also
>> wrote.
>>
>> The resignation comes four days after Buckley formally endorsed Obama on
>> the
>> Web site The Daily Beast, writing the presidential campaign had made John
>> McCain "inauthentic," and Obama appeared to have a "first-class
>> temperament
>> and first-class intellect."
>>
>> In a statement posted on the publication's Web site Tuesday, National
>> Review
>> editor Rich Lowry noted Buckley was writing for the magazine on a trial
>> basis, and took his offer to resign with the "warmest regards and
>> understanding" sincerely. Lowry also took issue with Buckley's contention
>> the magazine had been flooded with angry mail over Buckley's endorsement,
>> saying it had received a relatively small 100 e-mails expressing
>> disapproval.
>>
>> "It's an intense election season and emotions are running high," Lowry
>> said."
>>
>> Emotions running high?  I'll say.  
>>
>> Ben C.
>>
>>
>> hparsons wrote:
>>   
>>> Ben,
>>>
>>> Are you aware of what some Bible passages have to say about doing away 
>>> with other races, certain races being God's chosen, what should be done 
>>> with people that commit certain acts, etc? Is it your assertion that we 
>>> shouldn't use the Bible because of those passages?
>>>
>>> Are you aware of what some of our founding fathers said and did during 
>>> their times?  Is it your assertion that their quotes should not be used 
>>> as well?
>>>
>>> Are you aware that Obama freely quoted in his memiors from a man who 
>>> said that God should damn America? Are you going to judge Obama, at the 
>>> top of the Democratic ticket, by the same standard you are now trying 
>>> judge the VP candidate on the Republican side?
>>>
>>> I somehow doubt it... But I AM eagerly awaiting your response...
>>>
>>>
>>> Ben Cittadino wrote:
>>>     
>>>> Pete;
>>>>
>>>> Speaking of Gov. Palin, Frank Rich (of the NYTimes) had a reference in
>>>> his
>>>> excellent column this past Sunday about her quote from Westbrook
>>>> Pegler:
>>>>
>>>> No less disconcerting was a still-unexplained passage of Palin’s
>>>> convention
>>>> speech: Her use of an unattributed quote praising small-town America
>>>> (as
>>>> opposed to, say, Chicago and its community organizers) from Westbrook
>>>> Pegler, the mid-century Hearst columnist famous for his anti-Semitism,
>>>> racism and violent rhetorical excess. After an assassin tried to kill
>>>> F.D.R.
>>>> at a Florida rally and murdered Chicago’s mayor instead in 1933, Pegler
>>>> wrote that it was “regrettable that Giuseppe Zangara shot the wrong
>>>> man.”
>>>> In
>>>> the ’60s, Pegler had a wish for Bobby Kennedy: “Some white patriot of
>>>> the
>>>> Southern tier will spatter his spoonful of brains in public premises
>>>> before
>>>> the snow falls.”
>>>>
>>>> I don't believe it is possible to justify any use of Pegler's words in
>>>> any
>>>> context in this day and age.  Either she (or her speech-writer) are
>>>> Pegler
>>>> disciples, or guilty of appallingly bad judgment. Westbrook Pegler was
>>>> a
>>>> very bad guy.
>>>>
>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>
>>>> Ben C. 
>>>>
>>>> P.S.- Ed- Let me get this straight; You don't listen to Limbaugh,
>>>> except
>>>> when you do?  Is that it? Anyway, 
>>>> WFAN(660 AM) is the place for sports talk up this way.  Give it a
>>>> listen
>>>> next time you're up this way to take in a Broadway Show.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Tootle wrote:
>>>>   
>>>>       
>>>>> Peter,
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is the second paragraph of that report which you failed to
>>>>> mention,
>>>>> "Was the refusal to fire Mike Wooten the reason Palin fired
>>>>> Commissioner
>>>>> of Public Safety Walt Monegan? Not exclusively, and it was within her
>>>>> rights as the states' chief executive to fire him for just about any
>>>>> reason, even without cause."
>>>>>
>>>>> Peter are you being paid by the Obama Campaign for your posts?  Are
>>>>> you
>>>>> familiar with the term 'cherry picking'?
>>>>>
>>>>> Ben C. asked, " Do you think Rush Limbaugh has actually read Sowell's
>>>>> stuff, or just pretends?"  I do not listen to Limbaugh except when I
>>>>> am
>>>>> driving and that is usually less than an hour, so I have no idea of
>>>>> the
>>>>> answer to your question. I guess you must listen more than me.  Why
>>>>> don't
>>>>> you call in and ask him?  Let us all know what you find out.
>>>>>
>>>>> As for talk radio, we have a couple of good sports talk shows here on
>>>>> Wcpi.  One is called 'Road Rage' with Walt Deptula.  He is quite
>>>>> knowledgeable and very critical.  His program may have helped get the
>>>>> Clemson football coach, Tommy Bowdin fired.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ed K
>>>>> Greenville, SC, USA
>>>>>  http://www.nabble.com/file/p19981887/Obama%2Band%2BAyers.jpg
>>>>> Obama+and+Ayers.jpg 
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>> petelargo wrote:
>>>>>     
>>>>>         
>>>>>> ....except that's not what the bi-partisan investigation committee of
>>>>>> 10
>>>>>> repubs and 4 demos found.  she clearly abused her power. now they are
>>>>>> looking into the sports complex that paid for their personal house
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> government money. no small town washington reformer here.  just
>>>>>> another
>>>>>> 'whats in it for me' politician. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> from the time magazine article linked below: " ......the Branchflower
>>>>>> report still makes for good reading, if only because it convincingly
>>>>>> answers a question nobody had even thought to ask: Is the Palin
>>>>>> administration shockingly amateurish? Yes, it is. Disturbingly so." 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1849399,00.html?xid=site-cnn-partner
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>           
>>>>>  http://www.nabble.com/file/p19981887/Obama%2Band%2BAyers.jpg
>>>>> Obama+and+Ayers.jpg 
>>>>>
>>>>>     
>>>>>         
>>>>   
>>>>       
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