[Rhodes22-list] Andrew this is a reply to the Political post 'More News' by Ben C and Herb neither of which did you label as Political

Wed Oct 15 15:10:35 EDT 2008

Now we are getting somewhere!

Thanks Ed

Andrew
sv Carmen

On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 8:11 AM, Tootle <ekroposki at charter.net> wrote:

>
> Herb,
>
> After seeing Ben C.'s post and your reply, I must ask, would all of Ben's
> views mirror his father's?
> In this case maybe yes?  Was his father one of the Italian socialist who
> brought Mussolini to power?  Maybe here we have a chip off the old block?
>
> If you go back far enough in history of Italy, you find Rome.  They had
> slavery in the Roman Empire.  They had emperors.   They sent dissenters
> such
> as Christians to the lions.  Maybe his views have a historical or genetic
> origin?
>
> In that Socialism is a modern form or attempt at slavery, have we found the
> origins of his views?  Inquiring minds want answers.
>
> Ed K
> Greenville, SC, USA
>
>
> hparsons wrote:
> >
> > Yep, big news there. A guy disagrees with the standards of his father,
> > and has for years. Never seen THAT one happen before...
> >
> > Benjamin Cittadino wrote:
> >> More news:
> >>
> >> "CNN-
> >> MChristopher Buckley, the son of conservative icon William F. Buckley,
> >> said
> >> Tuesday he's resigned from the conservative National Review days after
> >> endorsing Barack Obama's White House bid, among the most powerful
> symbols
> >> yet of the conservative discontent expressed this election cycle.
> >>
> >> In an online column, Buckley said he had decided to offer his
> resignation
> >> from the magazine his father founded after hundreds of readers and some
> >> National Review colleagues expressed outrage he was backing the Illinois
> >> senator.
> >>
> >> "While I regret this development, I am not in mourning, for I no longer
> >> have
> >> any clear idea what, exactly, the modern conservative movement stands
> >> for,"
> >> Buckley wrote.
> >>
> >> "Eight years of 'conservative' government has brought us a doubled
> >> national
> >> debt, ruinous expansion of entitlement programs, bridges to nowhere,
> >> poster
> >> boy Jack Abramoff and an ill-premised, ill-waged war conducted by
> >> politicians of breathtaking arrogance. As a sideshow, it brought us a
> >> truly
> >> obscene attempt at federal intervention in the Terry Schiavo case," he
> >> also
> >> wrote.
> >>
> >> The resignation comes four days after Buckley formally endorsed Obama on
> >> the
> >> Web site The Daily Beast, writing the presidential campaign had made
> John
> >> McCain "inauthentic," and Obama appeared to have a "first-class
> >> temperament
> >> and first-class intellect."
> >>
> >> In a statement posted on the publication's Web site Tuesday, National
> >> Review
> >> editor Rich Lowry noted Buckley was writing for the magazine on a trial
> >> basis, and took his offer to resign with the "warmest regards and
> >> understanding" sincerely. Lowry also took issue with Buckley's
> contention
> >> the magazine had been flooded with angry mail over Buckley's
> endorsement,
> >> saying it had received a relatively small 100 e-mails expressing
> >> disapproval.
> >>
> >> "It's an intense election season and emotions are running high," Lowry
> >> said."
> >>
> >> Emotions running high?  I'll say.
> >>
> >> Ben C.
> >>
> >>
> >> hparsons wrote:
> >>
> >>> Ben,
> >>>
> >>> Are you aware of what some Bible passages have to say about doing away
> >>> with other races, certain races being God's chosen, what should be done
> >>> with people that commit certain acts, etc? Is it your assertion that we
> >>> shouldn't use the Bible because of those passages?
> >>>
> >>> Are you aware of what some of our founding fathers said and did during
> >>> their times?  Is it your assertion that their quotes should not be used
> >>> as well?
> >>>
> >>> Are you aware that Obama freely quoted in his memiors from a man who
> >>> said that God should damn America? Are you going to judge Obama, at the
> >>> top of the Democratic ticket, by the same standard you are now trying
> >>> judge the VP candidate on the Republican side?
> >>>
> >>> I somehow doubt it... But I AM eagerly awaiting your response...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Ben Cittadino wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Pete;
> >>>>
> >>>> Speaking of Gov. Palin, Frank Rich (of the NYTimes) had a reference in
> >>>> his
> >>>> excellent column this past Sunday about her quote from Westbrook
> >>>> Pegler:
> >>>>
> >>>> No less disconcerting was a still-unexplained passage of Palin's
> >>>> convention
> >>>> speech: Her use of an unattributed quote praising small-town America
> >>>> (as
> >>>> opposed to, say, Chicago and its community organizers) from Westbrook
> >>>> Pegler, the mid-century Hearst columnist famous for his anti-Semitism,
> >>>> racism and violent rhetorical excess. After an assassin tried to kill
> >>>> F.D.R.
> >>>> at a Florida rally and murdered Chicago's mayor instead in 1933,
> Pegler
> >>>> wrote that it was "regrettable that Giuseppe Zangara shot the wrong
> >>>> man."
> >>>> In
> >>>> the '60s, Pegler had a wish for Bobby Kennedy: "Some white patriot of
> >>>> the
> >>>> Southern tier will spatter his spoonful of brains in public premises
> >>>> before
> >>>> the snow falls."
> >>>>
> >>>> I don't believe it is possible to justify any use of Pegler's words in
> >>>> any
> >>>> context in this day and age.  Either she (or her speech-writer) are
> >>>> Pegler
> >>>> disciples, or guilty of appallingly bad judgment. Westbrook Pegler was
> >>>> a
> >>>> very bad guy.
> >>>>
> >>>> Best wishes,
> >>>>
> >>>> Ben C.
> >>>>
> >>>> P.S.- Ed- Let me get this straight; You don't listen to Limbaugh,
> >>>> except
> >>>> when you do?  Is that it? Anyway,
> >>>> WFAN(660 AM) is the place for sports talk up this way.  Give it a
> >>>> listen
> >>>> next time you're up this way to take in a Broadway Show.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Tootle wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Peter,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Here is the second paragraph of that report which you failed to
> >>>>> mention,
> >>>>> "Was the refusal to fire Mike Wooten the reason Palin fired
> >>>>> Commissioner
> >>>>> of Public Safety Walt Monegan? Not exclusively, and it was within her
> >>>>> rights as the states' chief executive to fire him for just about any
> >>>>> reason, even without cause."
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Peter are you being paid by the Obama Campaign for your posts?  Are
> >>>>> you
> >>>>> familiar with the term 'cherry picking'?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Ben C. asked, " Do you think Rush Limbaugh has actually read Sowell's
> >>>>> stuff, or just pretends?"  I do not listen to Limbaugh except when I
> >>>>> am
> >>>>> driving and that is usually less than an hour, so I have no idea of
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> answer to your question. I guess you must listen more than me.  Why
> >>>>> don't
> >>>>> you call in and ask him?  Let us all know what you find out.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> As for talk radio, we have a couple of good sports talk shows here on
> >>>>> Wcpi.  One is called 'Road Rage' with Walt Deptula.  He is quite
> >>>>> knowledgeable and very critical.  His program may have helped get the
> >>>>> Clemson football coach, Tommy Bowdin fired.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Ed K
> >>>>> Greenville, SC, USA
> >>>>>  http://www.nabble.com/file/p19981887/Obama%2Band%2BAyers.jpg
> >>>>> Obama+and+Ayers.jpg
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> petelargo wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> ....except that's not what the bi-partisan investigation committee
> of
> >>>>>> 10
> >>>>>> repubs and 4 demos found.  she clearly abused her power. now they
> are
> >>>>>> looking into the sports complex that paid for their personal house
> >>>>>> with
> >>>>>> government money. no small town washington reformer here.  just
> >>>>>> another
> >>>>>> 'whats in it for me' politician.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> from the time magazine article linked below: " ......the
> Branchflower
> >>>>>> report still makes for good reading, if only because it convincingly
> >>>>>> answers a question nobody had even thought to ask: Is the Palin
> >>>>>> administration shockingly amateurish? Yes, it is. Disturbingly so."
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1849399,00.html?xid=site-cnn-partner
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>  http://www.nabble.com/file/p19981887/Obama%2Band%2BAyers.jpg
> >>>>> Obama+and+Ayers.jpg
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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