[Rhodes22-list] POLITICAL: conservative talk show host endorses Obama

Herb Parsons hparsons at parsonsys.com
Sat Oct 18 10:02:16 EDT 2008


Let's look at your statement a bit. I say "your statement" because you 
didn't read their article closely enough, and missed a few things.

While it's true that the paper has been in existence for over 150 years, 
their first endorsement for a Republican presidential nominee was in 
1860 for Abraham Lincoln. That was 148 years ago, not "over 150 years".

While it's also true that they've never endorsed a Democrat for 
President, it's NOT true that they've "consecutively and continuously" 
endorsed Republicans.

First of all, they've endorsed MANY Democratic candidates for other 
offices, including Barak Obama for senator.

Even in the presidential elections, they have not "consecutively and 
continuously" endorsed Republicans.

First of all, they endorsed Horace Greeley in 1872, who was a member of 
the "Liberal Republican Party". That was NOT the Republican party, in 
fact he ran against Republican Ulysses S Grant. He was nominated by the 
new party, and subsequently endorsed by the Democratic party. That would 
be pretty close to the paper endorsing a Democrat, but it's definitely 
NOT the paper endorsing the Republican candidate, who was Grant.

Greeley lost.

In 1912, the paper endorsed Theodore Roosevelt who ran against 
Republican William Taft and Democrat Woodrow Wilson.

Roosevelt lost.

Your facts are wrong. You probably ought to curb your excitement a bit, 
ignore the tingle up your leg, and get a little more informed.

But, there are other underlying facts as well...

Last year the paper was part of a leveraged buyout, and is now under new 
ownership. The new owner contributes to both parties heavily (and more 
to Republicans than Democrats), but he is a businessman, and the 
newspaper is a business that his having problems. Obama is a widely 
popular candidate in Chicago, and will take his state without a doubt. I 
suspect that the paper's motive might have a little to do with trying to 
sell papers, but that's just a guess.

To answer your question, I don't know of a paper that fits your 
description, so don't bother waiting. However, I'm wondering how long 
you're going to keep ME waiting for the question I've continued to ask.

What's your point?

petelargo wrote:
> Here you go 'Last-Word-Herb'. The Chicago Tribune has just endorsed obama
> after over 150 years of consecutively and continuously endorsing
> republicans. Find a newspaper that has endorsed a democratic nominee for
> president for 150 years in a row and is now endorsing McCain. Try not to
> keep me waiting as long as katie couric has been waiting for sister sarah to
> get back to her on all those examples of mccains regulatory history. 
>
> http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-tribune-endorsementoct18,0,3250801.story
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> hparsons wrote:
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>> Pete,
>>
>> I really don't understand your point on the constant harping on 
>> "conservatives" that are voting for a far left wing liberal.
>>
>> Is your point that some folks are crossing over? If so, trust me, we all 
>> some are, both directions. LOTS of libs voting for McCain as well.
>>
>> Is your point that you suddenly respect the opinion of conservatives? If 
>> so, you probably need to know, there are more conservatives that are 
>> voting for McCain than Obama. I'll be happy to give you a list of some 
>> of the better known names, if you're that easily swayed.
>>
>> I suspect the REAL reason though, is that the only opinions that matter 
>> are those that match yours, and then you suddenly believe that makes it 
>> "noteworthy". Trust me, it's not.
>> ;)
>>
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>> petelargo wrote:
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>>> On his talk show on WPHT today, conservative Philadelphian Michael
>>> Smerconish
>>> endorsed Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill. Smerconish did so by reading a couple
>>> paragraphs from his pending op-ed in the Philadelphia Inquirer.
>>>
>>> "I've decided," he said. "My conclusion comes after reading the
>>> candidates'
>>> memoirs and campaign platforms, attending both party conventions,
>>> interviewing both men multiple times, and watching all primary and
>>> general
>>> election debates.
>>>
>>> "John McCain is an honorable man who has served his country well. But he
>>> will not get my vote. For the first time since registering as a
>>> Republican
>>> 28 years ago, I'm voting for a Democrat for president.
>>>   
>>>       
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