[Rhodes22-list] Wally said, "... [Political][Wally may be right, but]

TN Rhodey tnrhodey at gmail.com
Mon Oct 20 07:38:11 EDT 2008


Tootle, The main reason I seldom post links is any source can be questioned.
Believe what ever you want. I am sure your SC radio station's discreet
comment's are dead on. You always ask others to consider the bias of the
source. You might want to take your own advice.

Wally

On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 8:02 PM, Tootle <ekroposki at charter.net> wrote:

>
> Wally,
>
> You may be right about the shipments of yellow cake to Canada.
>
> I have two questions.  Is your fact check the same organization , that is
> 'Annenberg Foundation' who funded Bill Ayers and Barack Obama's project in
> Chicago?  If yes, does that mean that it is completely unbiased?
>
> And no reports cite the shipment thru Port of Charleston, South Carolina to
> undisclosed reprocessing site?  There was an acknowledge shipment of yellow
> cake Uranium ore thru Charleston.  It was stated to be 220 metric tons of
> yellow cake ore from Iraq.  It was briefly stated on local radio because of
> the potential hazards of moving the shipment to the undisclosed location.
>  I
> would point out the undisclosed location is known to locals, that is to the
> Savannah River Plant.
>
> Notwithstanding the 'secret' movement of the shipment to SRP, they
> apparently are required to notify the public of potentially hazardous
> shipments thru the Port of Charleston.  The shipment vanished as quickly as
> it appeared without incident.  I find no documentation of the radio
> announcement that I heard twice that day.  Maybe you can find the
> information?
>
> This shipment evidentially had nothing to do with Canada?
>
> Ed K
> Greenville, SC, USA
> http://www.nabble.com/file/p20061496/Wally%2Band%2BBanks.gif
> Wally+and+Banks.gif
>
>
> TN Rhodey-2 wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> There may be a reason this story was "buried".
> >>
> >>
> >>
> http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/was_it_recently_revealed_that_the_us.html
> >>
> >> I know you guys like to send each other hundreds of emails knocking the
> >> other side but you really need to check your facts. Brad must be relying
> >> on
> >> the same source that told him the economy was strong!
> >>
> >> You guys are too funny.
> >>
> >> Wally
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 10:24 AM, Brad Haslett <flybrad at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Ed,
> >>>
> >>> The MSM buried the story.  Attached is one archive. Most newspapers
> >>> posted it deep in their papers and hardly any broadcast news outlets
> >>> touched the story. The US Armed Forces kept it quiet because it stayed
> >>> under heavy guard for years and they didn't want to draw attention to
> >>> it until it was safely in Canada for processing.
> >>>
> >>> Brad
> >>>
> >>> ---------------
> >>>
> >>> Posted on Sun, Jul. 6, 2008
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Iraq's nuclear 'yellowcake' moved to Canada
> >>>
> >>> By Brian Murphy
> >>>
> >>> Associated Press
> >>> The last major remnant of Saddam Hussein's nuclear program - a huge
> >>> stockpile of concentrated natural uranium - reached a Canadian port
> >>> yesterday to complete a secret U.S. operation that included a two-week
> >>> airlift from Baghdad and a ship voyage crossing two oceans.
> >>>
> >>> > The removal of 550 metric tons of "yellowcake" - the seed material
> for
> >>> higher-grade nuclear enrichment - was a significant step toward closing
> >>> the
> >>> books on Hussein's nuclear legacy. It also brought relief to U.S. and
> >>> Iraqi
> >>> authorities who had worried that the cache would reach insurgents or
> >>> smugglers crossing to Iran to aid its nuclear ambitions.
> >>>
> >>> > What's now left is the final and complicated push to clean up the
> >>> remaining radioactive debris at the former Tuwaitha nuclear complex
> >>> about 12
> >>> miles south of Baghdad - using teams that include Iraqi experts
> recently
> >>> trained in the Chernobyl fallout zone in Ukraine.
> >>>
> >>> > "Everyone is very happy to have this safely out of Iraq," said a
> >>> senior
> >>> U.S. official who outlined the nearly three-month operation to the
> >>> Associated Press. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because
> >>> of
> >>> the sensitivity of the subject.
> >>>
> >>> > While yellowcake alone is not considered potent enough for a
> so-called
> >>> "dirty bomb" - a conventional explosive that disperses radioactive
> >>> material
> >>> - it could stir widespread panic if incorporated into a blast.
> >>> Yellowcake
> >>> also can be enriched for use in reactors and, at higher levels, nuclear
> >>> weapons using sophisticated equipment.
> >>>
> >>> > The Iraqi government sold the yellowcake to a Canadian uranium
> >>> producer,
> >>> Cameco Corp., in a transaction the official described as worth "tens of
> >>> millions of dollars." A Cameco spokesman, Lyle Krahn, declined to
> >>> discuss
> >>> the price, but said the yellowcake would be processed at facilities in
> >>> Ontario for use in energy-producing reactors.
> >>>
> >>> > "We are pleased . . . that we have taken [the yellowcake] from a
> >>> volatile region into a stable area to produce clean electricity," he
> >>> said.
> >>>
> >>> > The deal culminated more than a year of intense diplomatic and
> >>> military
> >>> initiatives - kept hushed in fear of ambushes or attacks once the
> >>> convoys
> >>> were under way: first carrying 3,500 barrels by road to Baghdad, then
> on
> >>> 37
> >>> military flights to the Indian Ocean atoll of Diego Garcia, and finally
> >>> aboard a U.S.-flagged ship for an 8,500-mile trip to Montreal.
> >>>
> >>> > And, in a symbolic way, the mission linked the current attempts to
> >>> stabilize Iraq with some of the high-profile claims about Hussein's
> >>> weapons
> >>> capabilities in the buildup to the 2003 invasion.
> >>>
> >>> > Accusations that Hussein had tried to purchase more yellowcake from
> >>> the
> >>> African nation of Niger - and an article by a former U.S. ambassador
> >>> refuting the claims - led to a wide-ranging probe into Washington leaks
> >>> that
> >>> reached high into the Bush administration.
> >>>
> >>> > Tuwaitha and an adjacent research facility were well-known for
> decades
> >>> as the centerpiece of Hussein's nuclear efforts.
> >>>
> >>> > Israeli warplanes bombed a reactor project at the site in 1981.
> Later,
> >>> U.N. inspectors documented and safeguarded the yellowcake, which had
> >>> been
> >>> stored in aging drums and containers since before the 1991 Gulf War.
> >>> There
> >>> was no evidence of any yellowcake dating from after 1991, the official
> >>> said.
> >>>
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Find this article at:
> >>>
> >>>
> http://www.philly.com/inquirer/world_us/20080706_Iraq_s_nuclear__yellowcake__moved_to_Canada.html?adString=inq.news/world_us;!category=world_us;&randomOrd=101508072055
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 9:13 AM, Tootle <ekroposki at charter.net> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > Wally,
> >>> >
> >>> > I could not find a reference for the yellow cake that came thru
> >>> Charleston,
> >>> > SC.  It was a discreet comment on local South Carolina radio.
> >>> >
> >>> > However, that ship apparently was not all.  See:
> >>> >
> >>> > http://www.defenselink.mil/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=50430
> >>> >
> >>> > Just maybe the MSM (Main Stream Media) does not tell all?  Especially
> >>> that
> >>> > which it does not want.
> >>> >
> >>> > And just maybe the current political news is just as biased?
> >>> >
> >>> > Ed K
> >>> > Greenville, SC, USA
> >>> > attachment:
> >>> > http://www.nabble.com/file/p19994370/statement.gif statement.gif
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Tootle wrote:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Wally said, "I have seen many on this list proven wrong about WMD".
> >>> >>
> >>> >> While many argue that many things were included in Weapons of Mass
> >>> >> Destruction, some want the term limited to whether Iraq had a
> nuclear
> >>> >> program.  So limit the term to Iraq's nuclear programs under Saddam.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Discreetly, over 200 metric tons of yellow cake were removed from
> >>> Iraq
> >>> and
> >>> >> brought to US thru port of Charleston and shipped to unstated
> >>> American
> >>> >> plant for processing.  And was that same stuff that Clark said that
> >>> Iraq
> >>> >> was not interested in?  How did Iraq acquire 200 metric tons of semi
> >>> >> processed Uranium ore?  Which asks the question what was it going to
> >>> be
> >>> >> used for?
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Ed K
> >>> >> Greenville, SC, USA
> >>> >> Attachment:
> >>> >>  http://www.nabble.com/file/p19994121/Attention.jpg Attention.jpg
> >>> >>
> >>> > http://www.nabble.com/file/p19994370/statement.gif statement.gif
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