[Rhodes22-list] Legal: Ben Please Help

Ben Cittadino bcittadino at dcs-law.com
Tue Oct 21 19:52:38 EDT 2008


Bill;

That's some story. Thank you for sharing it.

....and we haven't even begun to talk about immigration reform.

later,

Ben C.

Bill Effros wrote:
> 
> Thanks for thinking about it.
> 
> My mother's sisters were both killed during WWII because they could not 
> just hop on a boat and come here.
> 
> The Netherlands was invaded 6 months after my mother's 21st birthday.
> 
> Had she not reclaimed her citizenship ...
> 
> Bill Effros
> 
> 
> 
> Ben Cittadino wrote:
>> Bill;
>>
>> I think the most significant fact you cited was that she re-entered on a
>> US
>> passport.  I suspect that when the age of majority was 21 (now 18) there
>> may
>> have been a regulation that required renewal of a passport upon attaining
>> 21.  I think that may be what was going on.  Otherwise I'm not sure what
>> that was all about.
>>
>> Ben C.
>>
>> Bill Effros wrote:
>>   
>>> Thanks, Ben,
>>>
>>> What is going on with the part about having to re-claim citizenship 
>>> before the age of 21?
>>>
>>> Herb mentioned he did the same.
>>>
>>> If my mother had failed to reclaim citizenship could she still be 
>>> President -- or would she have lost her American Citizenship?
>>>
>>> Bill Effros
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ben Cittadino wrote:
>>>     
>>>> Bill;
>>>>
>>>> If this question was addressed to me ( and it may not have been ) the
>>>> answer
>>>> is that if your mother never "formally renounced" her US citizenship
>>>> then
>>>> she was a native born American citizen the entire time although she may
>>>> have
>>>> held duel citizenship for part of the time. She can be President.
>>>>
>>>> Americans can be duel citizens but often other countries require that
>>>> you
>>>> make a choice.  For example I believe Japanese citizens who become
>>>> American
>>>> citizens are deemed to have renounced their Japanese citizenship.
>>>>
>>>> Also, remember this advice is worth exactly what you paid for it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Ben Cittadino
>>>>
>>>> Bill Effros wrote:
>>>>   
>>>>       
>>>>> Ben,
>>>>>
>>>>> My mother was born in NYC in 1917 to Dutch parents with a business in 
>>>>> the United States.  After WWI she went to Holland with her parents,
>>>>> and 
>>>>> enjoyed the benefits of Dutch citizenship.
>>>>>
>>>>> In 1938, before her 21st birthday, her parents arranged for her to 
>>>>> return to the United States to claim her American Citizenship, which
>>>>> she 
>>>>> would otherwise have  lost, owing to her exercise of Dutch
>>>>> Citizenship.  
>>>>> She traveled to the United States on a US Passport, and remained here
>>>>> as 
>>>>> a United States citizen.
>>>>>
>>>>> It was my understanding that she was not eligible to run for President 
>>>>> of the United States because she was a Dutch citizen as a child and
>>>>> had 
>>>>> to reclaim her American citizenship, and thus became a "naturalized" 
>>>>> rather than "native born" citizen.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do I have this wrong?  Is there still a chance for my mother to become 
>>>>> President?
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill Effros
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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